Complexes

@hengst yea i read through them again. Some cool ideas. The End Points are interesting. Kind of a Railroad type thing. For Land anyway.

Got a couple other things going, but yea, gonna check it out some more :)

Underground Factory
C10
Build (not islands) on any territory worth 2 or more icps.
Build 1 unit Per Turn only.
Cannot be damaged by SBR attacks.
Enemy captures territory with factory, gets to use it on there next turn.

Tech
Spy discovers underground factory
Can SBR factory up to 5 icp dam max. Must be fully repaired to use
Something to this effect. If you have Partisans in game they could also attack it. Maybe 3 damage and must be fully repaired to use.

Would this C10 be to low ? Pay 10 for factory, then drop a capital ship next to a territory worth 2 or more anywhere next to a sea zone.

Maybe have it where you can only
build a undergroundfactory on your own original starting territory.

I have to disagree.  Imagine Japan building a micro in western China or the Novosibirsk area.  That would allow a quick overrun of the unprotected Soviet territoriies while the Russians are cornered in Moscow.  It tales a fast unit four turns to get from the Chinese coast (where factories can be built) to Moscow, while a micro could bring troops to the front immediately.

Even a micro in the Shan State or Yunnan could be detrimental to India simply because of the added range. Though a micro is not as economical as a minor, it gives Japan a privilege it rarely ever gets early on: building inland.

Got it, thanks for all the replies everyone. I’d agree with one of the posters that the rule could be worded better.

Cheers

G

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=22164.0

Do you mean the Risk cities?

You can get them here:

Risk Replacement Parts

They are with the blue pieces

…which were quickly wiped out by Japan and not replaced.

The Soviet Navy had to build ships in Russia then sail them out to form the Pacific fleet.

I don’t buy the idea of complexes as staging areas - this can apply to any area where you build up forces, and doesn’t need a factory.  To me, “Industrial Complex” means a vast industrial base of economic production in which weapons of war are forged.  To establish such a base overseas from scratch is simply not realistic. Much, much cheaper and quicker to ship/rail the units from their base of origin in your home territory which is exactly what the game should reflect.

Industrial complexes (at least building new ones and using other player’s) are one of those hangovers from the original game design that somehow haven’t been updated because they feel like too much a part of the A&A tradition.  But, like the Sinai peninsular being in Trans-Jordan, or the disturbing re-appearance of the Hiberno-Caledonian land bridge, they don’t belong in a game which purports to represent World War II.

@Argothair Funny thing is, this is a example of an idea coming along early - Oztea’s Garrisons are mostly the same thing as A&A&Z’s Recruitment Centers. Main differences being that Garrisons can make more than just infantry and when Recruitment Centers make infantry, they do it at normal price. Of course, the fact that this thread is 10 years old may mean that it’s just you and me in here for now.

-Midnight_Reaper