2011 Tournament discussion (AA50-41)

[Cow]

you have 1000+ tuv game… 500+ for each side. I hate games like that. because they can go on 14 round plus. in real life 10 hour game? in triplea 5-7hour game? most games resolve in 2-3 depending on how long people think about what they are doing. real life games 3-6 hours usual.

it’s like you couldn’t find a battle.

[Cow]

gi_joe over cow.  cow couldn’t hit against british forces all game with germany. lost sz 2 battle with sub fig bomber (total miss) and sz12 with sub 2 fighter (total miss)  on g1 and lost germany on a 77% defense on uk 3. :| which is pretty sad but that’s ok. even if i put a couple a couple more guys the way he rolled and the way i rolled… jesus.

[Gargantua]

PWNED!

You must be all talk, to get knocked out in the first round against a total noob!

See you next year Cow.

[Cow]

lol shit happens. like the time i lost 1 carrier 2 fighters to a single fighter… and that bastard flew away… and i choose carrier as my first casualty… lool but i won that game, because boats and oceans never matters.

[gamerman01]

:-)
I thought GI Joe’s men all came by sea….

[gamerman01]

So Cow, doesn’t that make you COBRA?

[Gi_Joe]

Hey Gargantua,

Why do you call me a Noob?  :?
Yes, this was my first game on this site.

I also play on GTO, DAAK and TripleA.

PS, i play A&A for 25 years now.

[Gargantua]

Why do you call me a Noob? 
Yes, this was my first game on this site.

I also play on GTO, DAAK and TripleA.

PS, i play A&A for 25 years now.

Exactly my point,

I watched your play style… sloppy LOL.  Hope we meet in the tournament!

[gamerman01]

Well, it would have to be in the finals.  Fat chance!

[Gi_Joe]

Looking forward to it hahaha.

[Cow]

don’t worry GI_JOE. you roll good, take advantage of that and you be fine! gogogogo super defense!

[DarthMaximus]

I forgot to mention this and a couple people PM’d me, but go ahead and post your results in this thread.

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Results:

Gamerman over axis_roll

RisingDragon over BigBadGoo

[General_D.Fox]

Tyzoq over Desert Journalist in 7 rounds.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=22594.225

[The Dessert Fox]

Also Zhuk over DF

[dutchmand]

Is there any constraint on what types of units can be included in the bid… i.e. bombers when the bid is 12 or more?

Other sites have a restriction… I think mostly for the Soviet bomber in Bury reason…

Yea, you can get your tnps and dd in z51 sunk before you start.  8-)

[gamerman01]

@DutchmanD:

Is there any constraint on what types of units can be included in the bid… i.e. bombers when the bid is 12 or more?

Other sites have a restriction… I think mostly for the Soviet bomber in Bury reason…

Yea, you can get your tnps and dd in z51 sunk before you start.  8-)

There’s only a 57% chance of that happening.  And then you have no extra infantry to Egypt, no destroyer to 2, etc.  Japan starts with 5 transports.  Yes, they will be unable to take a money island and that’s an 8 IPC swing, but that’s again only if Russia wins this coin flip of an attack.  I’ve heard all this talk about the Bomber on Buryatia like it’s some kind of game over thing, but my opinion is that it’s an over-reaction.

You have a 29% chance of killing the destroyer and the transports surviving.
You have a 14.286% chance of getting NOTHING BUT BROWN JUNK on the Pacific floor for your 12 bid!!!

To answer your question, I never saw any rules on this site about bid restrictions other than you have to already have units there and it has to be your nation controlling the territory (No german units to Libya for example).

[Zhukov44]

I would support forbidding bomber bids.  The reason is….a bid like that (bmb to Bry) doesn’t improve game quality–it makes the outcome of the game even more dependent on a dicey R1 attack.  If it succeeds it is very tough for Axis to recover, if it fails Allies have lost their bid.

Anyway, I can’t recall seeing a 12 bid on here.  Seems like a high bid for a dice game.

[DarthMaximus]

Quick note on round 1 games.  Obviously all are not done yet, so keep playing on.  Right now the plan is to let the games finish normally.  I guess we’ll take another look at it at the end of May.

But a note to all ongoing games.  We need to pick up the pace, myself included.  :-D

[gamerman01]

Just some thoughts -
@Zhukov44:

I would support forbidding bomber bids.  The reason is….a bid like that (bmb to Bry) doesn’t improve game quality–it makes the outcome of the game even more dependent on a dicey R1 attack.

The purpose of bids isn’t to improve game quality.  It’s to get two players to agree that their game is fair.  If you grant someone a 12 bid with the Allies, why should they not have the right to build a bomber on Bry and take a big chance if they want?  If you don’t want them to be able to build a bomber, then you shouldn’t let them have a bid of 12, you need to bid 11.

If it succeeds it is very tough for Axis to recover, if it fails Allies have lost their bid.

That’s what they get for taking that kind of a risk.

Anyway, I can’t recall seeing a 12 bid on here.  Seems like a high bid for a dice game.

Right.  Another reason a rule banning bomber bids is unnecessary.

Thanks for the thoughts, Zhukov.  Very interesting.

[Amon-Sul]

@DarthMaximus:

Quick note on round 1 games.  Obviously all are not done yet, so keep playing on.  Right now the plan is to let the games finish normally.  I guess we’ll take another look at it at the end of May.

But a note to all ongoing games.  We need to pick up the pace, myself included.   :-D

can U please explain X2

cheers :)