VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe OOB, Game 3

[VictoryFirst]

@DoManMacgee

Allied bid: 4 inf in Ukraine

[VictoryFirst]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone
              Germans take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from British
        1 submarine moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
              Germans take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from British
        1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from France to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        1 armour and 7 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 armour moved from Hungary to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia
        1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
        3 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
        1 fighter moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Denmark to Danish Sea Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Germany to Danish Sea Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Baltic States
        2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
        1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Poland to East Poland
        2 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
        1 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
        1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 3 submarines
            British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 fighter and 4 submarines
            British defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports
                Germans roll dice for 4 submarines in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 transports in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                2 transports owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 4 submarines in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 fighter and 4 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 transports
        Battle in Bessarabia
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Bessarabia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
            Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry
        Battle in East Poland
            Germans attack with 3 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry
            Russians defend with 4 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland
                3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in East Poland, round 4 : 3/6 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in East Poland, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
            Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 7 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 8 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 7 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 6/12 hits, 3,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 8 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                6 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 3/8 hits, 3,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
            Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 8 infantry
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
            Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
        Battle in North Sea Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 3 fighters and 3 submarines
            British defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone
                1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 3 submarines
            Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        Battle in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
        1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia to Poland
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary
        2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
        2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Rumania
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia
        2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Hungary
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Austria
        1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland
        2 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Poland
        3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
        4 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany
        2 armour moved from France to Germany
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
        4 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        2 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Finland
        1 fighter moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Poland
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Rumania

    Place Units - Germans
        13 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 45 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 0,33
Germans regular : 0,50
British regular : -0,50

Savegame

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Well this is at least closer to what you wanted anyway (Germany did better on Eastern Front, Allies did better in the Atlantic).

Purchase Units
Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move
1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 armour moved from Turkestan to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 armour moved from Moscow to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Moscow to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 submarine and 1 transport moved from White Sea Sea Zone to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
3 infantry moved from Turkestan to Belorussia
4 infantry moved from Moscow to Belorussia
2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Belorussia
1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
2 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad
1 armour moved from Archangel to Belorussia
1 armour moved from Siberia to Belorussia
3 infantry moved from Archangel to Russia
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Siberia to Russia
1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
Combat
Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
Russians attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 9 infantry
Germans defend with 2 armour and 2 infantry
Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 6,3,5,3,3,4,3,2,6,1,1,6,6,2,6,3
Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1,3,5,3
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
2 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
Russians takes Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans
Russians win
Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 13
Recording Battle Statistics
Non Combat Move
1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
1 aaGun moved from Moscow to Belorussia
1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Russia
Cleaning up during movement phase
Place Units
8 infantry placed in Leningrad
Turn Complete
Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs

This one is messed up because I forgot to copy/paste the turn summary at the end of the round. Sorry about that.

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst British Attack Germans in Celtic SZ:

[dice 3d6<=3]
[dice 1d6<=4]

[dicebot]

3d6<=3: 6, 5, 1; Hits: 1
1d6<=4: 2; Hits: 1

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Side-Note: Did you mean to not capture Gibraltar with Germany?

Asking because in the other two games we played, you made sure to capture it to prevent UK from landing air there. We can fix it via edit if you want (in that case, just move 2 Fighters/1 Bomber back to UK and 1 Fighter to Syria)

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy nothing; Remaining resources: 25 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Celtic Sea Sea Zone: 2 submarines
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Libya
              British take Libya from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Palestine to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Syria to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
        1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Libya
        1 fighter moved from Malta to Gibraltar
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Iran

    Combat - British
        Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters
            Germans defend with 2 submarines
            2 submarines owned by the Germans submerged

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 destroyer moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 aaGun and 1 armour moved from Canada to United States

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 16 PUs; end with 41 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

[VictoryFirst]

@DoManMacgee

Actually this time it is intentional. I am trying both moves to see if taking Gibraltar is really necessary. Just testing some stuff out.

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Americans attack Germans in Davis Strait SZ:

[dice 2d6<=3]
[dice 1d6<=4]

[dicebot]

2d6<=3: 5, 4; Hits: 0
1d6<=4: 2; Hits: 1

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Davis Strait Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco
              Americans take Morocco from Germans

    Combat - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from United States to Davis Strait Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        1 fighter moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Iceland

    Place Units - Americans
        3 fighters placed in United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 45 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[VictoryFirst]

Just wondering, where is the return fire of the German submarines in both naval battles?

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst I was under the impression that you were not allowed to pick and choose which submarines submerged. Is that incorrect?

[VictoryFirst]

@DoManMacgee

Yes it works differently

So the submarines that survived will submerge instead of rolling back. However the submarines that are killed aren’t able to submerge, and will therefore roll back.

[VictoryFirst]

Or actually this explains it better.

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Your second screenshot does not appear to be from the AAE rulebook but one of the combat examples in the rulebook clearly shows that you are allowed to fire back with any hit submarines (as if the Germans needed even more advantages than they already had lol):

Rolling:

2 Subs @ Celtic SZ:
[dice 2d6<=2]

1 Sub @ Davis Strait SZ:
[dice 1d6<=2]

[dicebot]

2d6<=2: 2, 1; Hits: 2
1d6<=2: 3; Hits: 0

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst So the UK DD dies while the US one lives. Feel free to make that edit during your Germany turn. It would not have changed anything that I did.

[VictoryFirst]

The second screenshot comes from the official FAQ. Also contains a lot of useful information. I’ll get the statistics up and then do the German turn.

[VictoryFirst]

TUV Differential / Net TUV - Round 1

G1
Eastern Front: +7.23 / +30
Atlantic/WA: +3.93 / +60
Total: +11.16 / +90

Allied1
Eastern Front: +3.00 / +14
Atlantic/WA: +4.39 / +48
Total: +7.39 / +62