VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe OOB, Game 3


  • @VictoryFirst Well this is at least closer to what you wanted anyway (Germany did better on Eastern Front, Allies did better in the Atlantic).

    Purchase Units
    Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
    Combat Move
    1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
    1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R.
    1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
    1 armour moved from Turkestan to Ukraine S.S.R.
    1 armour moved from Moscow to Ukraine S.S.R.
    1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Moscow to Ukraine S.S.R.
    1 submarine and 1 transport moved from White Sea Sea Zone to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
    3 infantry moved from Turkestan to Belorussia
    4 infantry moved from Moscow to Belorussia
    2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
    1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Belorussia
    1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
    2 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad
    1 armour moved from Archangel to Belorussia
    1 armour moved from Siberia to Belorussia
    3 infantry moved from Archangel to Russia
    1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Siberia to Russia
    1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
    Combat
    Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
    Russians attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 9 infantry
    Germans defend with 2 armour and 2 infantry
    Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 6,3,5,3,3,4,3,2,6,1,1,6,6,2,6,3
    Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1,3,5,3
    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
    2 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
    Russians takes Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans
    Russians win
    Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 13
    Recording Battle Statistics
    Non Combat Move
    1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
    1 aaGun moved from Moscow to Belorussia
    1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Russia
    Cleaning up during movement phase
    Place Units
    8 infantry placed in Leningrad
    Turn Complete
    Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs

    This one is messed up because I forgot to copy/paste the turn summary at the end of the round. Sorry about that.


  • @VictoryFirst British Attack Germans in Celtic SZ:

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    [dice 3d6<=3]
    [dice 1d6<=4]


  • 3d6<=3: 6, 5, 1; Hits: 1
    1d6<=4: 2; Hits: 1


  • @VictoryFirst Side-Note: Did you mean to not capture Gibraltar with Germany?

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    Asking because in the other two games we played, you made sure to capture it to prevent UK from landing air there. We can fix it via edit if you want (in that case, just move 2 Fighters/1 Bomber back to UK and 1 Fighter to Syria)


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy nothing; Remaining resources: 25 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Celtic Sea Sea Zone: 2 submarines
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Libya
                  British take Libya from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Palestine to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Libya
            1 fighter moved from Malta to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Iran
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters
                Germans defend with 2 submarines
                2 submarines owned by the Germans submerged
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 aaGun and 1 armour moved from Canada to United States
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 16 PUs; end with 41 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • @DoManMacgee

    Actually this time it is intentional. I am trying both moves to see if taking Gibraltar is really necessary. Just testing some stuff out.


  • @VictoryFirst Americans attack Germans in Davis Strait SZ:

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    [dice 2d6<=3]
    [dice 1d6<=4]


  • 2d6<=3: 5, 4; Hits: 0
    1d6<=4: 2; Hits: 1


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Davis Strait Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco
                  Americans take Morocco from Germans
    
        Combat - Americans
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from United States to Davis Strait Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Iceland
    
        Place Units - Americans
            3 fighters placed in United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 45 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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  • Just wondering, where is the return fire of the German submarines in both naval battles?


  • @VictoryFirst I was under the impression that you were not allowed to pick and choose which submarines submerged. Is that incorrect?


  • @DoManMacgee

    Yes it works differently
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    So the submarines that survived will submerge instead of rolling back. However the submarines that are killed aren’t able to submerge, and will therefore roll back.


  • Or actually this explains it better.
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  • @VictoryFirst Your second screenshot does not appear to be from the AAE rulebook but one of the combat examples in the rulebook clearly shows that you are allowed to fire back with any hit submarines (as if the Germans needed even more advantages than they already had lol):

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    Rolling:

    2 Subs @ Celtic SZ:
    [dice 2d6<=2]

    1 Sub @ Davis Strait SZ:
    [dice 1d6<=2]


  • 2d6<=2: 2, 1; Hits: 2
    1d6<=2: 3; Hits: 0


  • @VictoryFirst So the UK DD dies while the US one lives. Feel free to make that edit during your Germany turn. It would not have changed anything that I did.


  • The second screenshot comes from the official FAQ. Also contains a lot of useful information. I’ll get the statistics up and then do the German turn.


  • TUV Differential / Net TUV - Round 1

    G1
    Eastern Front: +7.23 / +30
    Atlantic/WA: +3.93 / +60
    Total: +11.16 / +90

    Allied1
    Eastern Front: +3.00 / +14
    Atlantic/WA: +4.39 / +48
    Total: +7.39 / +62


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Celtic Sea Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Germans buy 15 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 battleship moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                  Germans take British Convoy 2 Sea Zone from British
            1 destroyer moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                  Germans take British Convoy 1 Sea Zone from British
            1 transport moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                  Germans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Americans
            1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                  Germans take U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Americans
            1 submarine moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 armour moved from Hungary to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 armour moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 armour moved from Baltic States to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
    
        Combat - Germans
            Strategic bombing raid in Archangel
                Bombing raid in Archangel rolls: 4 and costs: 4 PUs.
                Bombing raid costs 4 PUs
            Battle in Morocco
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Americans defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Morocco
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Morocco
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Morocco
                Germans win, taking Morocco from Americans with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 8 armour, 2 artilleries and 7 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 2 artilleries and 7 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 5/17 hits, 6,17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/13 hits, 4,33 expected hits
                    5 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 7 infantry owned by the Germans and 8 armour owned by the Germans retreated to East Poland
                Russians win with 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Russians: 5 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Baltic States to East Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Rumania
            2 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            1 bomber moved from Archangel to Finland
            20 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
            1 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
            1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Poland
            3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Austria
            1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Rumania to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Poland to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            2 fighters moved from Finland to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            15 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0,00
    Russians regular : -4,33
    Germans regular : -1,67
    

    Savegame


  • @VictoryFirst 0/13 hits. I’m approaching TGC’s level of bad luck lol.

    Jokes aside, will work on my move later this afternoon.

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