L24 BM4 Adam514 (Axis) vs axis-dominion (Allies+21)

[axis-dominion]

good move on the DD i didn’t anticipate that… ideally i would’ve bought tacs but couldn’t afford them with japan up my ass lol

[axis-dominion]

dice stats tell the story on those battles

[Adam514]

Good game! Seemed like Allies potentially had the edge on turns 14-18.

Yeah the DD blocking 3 units from coming in and a few bombards was very worth. Nothing you can do about that except buying planes instead of land units from Sweden.

Japan was slowed down just enough by a strong China due to not getting Yunnan on J1, but on the other hand the German sub killing the US cruiser and tp allowed the Germans to keep Norway while pushing Russia which was clutch.

[Adam514]

As for the slow load, closing and reopening TripleA every few loads speeds it up significantly.

[axis-dominion]

yea you popping my cruiser in the beginning was really annoying… i did feel i had the edge for a few turns i agree, the momentum shifted a lot when you swung japan over, so that was a great move. hard to stop that i guess when everything was so tight as it is in those european/middle eastern theatres.

[axis-dominion]

i’d be down for a rematch maybe after a couple days break or whenever you feel ready again after a small break. wouldn’t mind allies again same bid amount if you’re ok with that, as this has been my only allies game since i came back and i miss them

[axis-dominion]

@Adam514 said in L24 BM4 Adam514 (Axis) vs axis-dominion (Allies+21):

As for the slow load, closing and reopening TripleA every few loads speeds it up significantly.

i closed and reopened but didn’t help. didn’t try multiple times tho

[axis-dominion]

@Adam514 said in L24 BM4 Adam514 (Axis) vs axis-dominion (Allies+21):

Good game! Seemed like Allies potentially had the edge on turns 14-18.

Yeah the DD blocking 3 units from coming in and a few bombards was very worth. Nothing you can do about that except buying planes instead of land units from Sweden.

Japan was slowed down just enough by a strong China due to not getting Yunnan on J1, but on the other hand the German sub killing the US cruiser and tp allowed the Germans to keep Norway while pushing Russia which was clutch.

yea norway was frustratingly illusive…

[Adam514]

We can rematch after a few days yeah. We’ll discuss the bid when we get there. Maybe you’ll change your mind about wanting to play Allies again after playing a near flawless Allied game against a rusty Axis opponent who made a few mistakes.

[axis-dominion]

@Adam514 said in L24 BM4 Adam514 (Axis) vs axis-dominion (Allies+21):

We can rematch after a few days yeah. We’ll discuss the bid when we get there. Maybe you’ll change your mind about wanting to play Allies again after playing a near flawless Allied game against a rusty Axis opponent who made a few mistakes.

i did notice those mistakes haha… but i started making some mistakes myself sadly like i shud have sent a few more carriers to 91 to allow more ftrs to attack wger from sardinia… that was just dumb… and a few other little things, mostly toward the end as i was getting fatigued and wanting to end things climactically. there were also a few strategic-level decisions i wonder about, i’ll have to rethink a bit maybe

[Adam514]

I’d say probably a few too many facilities were built haha.

[axis-dominion]

true probably… idk it’s hard, allies need the mobility… you bought quite a few yourself lol

[Adam514]

@axis-dominion Yeah because you were always running away with your Pacific fleet.

[axis-dominion]

@Adam514 said in L24 BM4 Adam514 (Axis) vs axis-dominion (Allies+21):

@axis-dominion Yeah because you were always running away with your Pacific fleet.

true, and losing the facilities to japan…

[axis-dominion]

i’m also thinking the neutral crush may have worked against me, i think i maybe didn’t set up enough for it… i guess i was feeling desperate to increase my income

[Adam514]

@axis-dominion I think you do it to save your France stack, but apart from that it’s usually not worth. Especially if you can’t keep Japan from Africa/S America. You’re giving a decent amount of units to Germany and the income is barely increased in your favor.

[axis-dominion]

@Adam514 said in L24 BM4 Adam514 (Axis) vs axis-dominion (Allies+21):

@axis-dominion I think you do it to save your France stack, but apart from that it’s usually not worth. Especially if you can’t keep Japan from Africa/S America. You’re giving a decent amount of units to Germany and the income is barely increased in your favor.

that’s the key, is keeping japan out of the cookie jar

[axis-dominion]

@axis-dominion said in L24 BM4 Adam514 (Axis) vs axis-dominion (Allies+21):

@Adam514 said in L24 BM4 Adam514 (Axis) vs axis-dominion (Allies+21):

@axis-dominion I think you do it to save your France stack, but apart from that it’s usually not worth. Especially if you can’t keep Japan from Africa/S America. You’re giving a decent amount of units to Germany and the income is barely increased in your favor.

that’s the key, is keeping japan out of the cookie jar

i wasn’t able to punish her for her escapades

[JDOW]

Congratulations to both of you for engaging in the most epic battle I have ever witnessed in a top-tier competition encounter.
Congratz to Adam for pulling it through as long as it took the Axis to slowly but steadily climb the mountain until reaching the summit. Very well played!

It was truly a roller coaster ride in terms of determining who was in the lead.

Initially, I thought the Allies were doomed after the incredible dice rolls in G1 and G2. Although there was a hiccup in Yunnan, everything else seemed to be going smoothly for the Axis.

Then, I was astonished by how quickly the Allies managed to establish a foothold in Europe, and I found myself favoring their position.

But the tide turned again, and once Moscow fell, it was clear that the Axis had the upper hand (following the rule of thumb: when both India and Moscow fall without significant concessions, the Axis typically emerges victorious). Although the Germans had to make concessions to capture Moscow, the possibility of retaking France made it evident that the Axis were pulling ahead.

Yet, the momentum shifted once more, and it became apparent that Japan couldn’t swiftly secure a VC victory. At this point, I found myself favoring the Allied position again.

However, the situation took a turn for the worse for the Allies, and the Axis gained complete control once more, rapidly deteriorating the Allied position. I was not really sure what happened here.

The situation became so dire for the Axis that not even a +263 battle at WGR (discounting some negative TUX exchanges before the UK battle) could turn the tide. Despite the Germans losing around 28 planes, the Axis were still prevailing.

One aspect I believe the Allies could have handled differently was adopting a more aggressive stance in the Pacific. They focused solely on fortifying Hawaii and Sydney, neglecting to contest the islands or send planes to support China. While I understand this is easier said than done, I think the Allies became too complacent and should have taken more risks while preventing a Japanese VC rush, thereby allowing US to build more transports, recapture islands, and wreck havoc in China with US air strikes. Additionally, the Allies retained UK planes in China for too long, where they failed to have the desired impact and were disconnected from their ground units.

It appears that there was a critical juncture in the game where the Allies had to decide whether to permit Japan risky battles at Hawaii or Sydney, potentially leading to either victory or defeat depending on the outcome, or to endure a slow death, as they ultimately opted for in this particular game.

Furthermore, the Japanese expedition to Africa was foreseeable, and I believe the Allies could have taken more precautions. This excursion proved to be highly beneficial for the Axis, completely disrupting any momentum the Allies had in Europe.
Also I believe Allies MUST attack South America before allowing Japan to land there, regardless of whether the units will be missed elsewhere.

A few questions to @Adam514

1. I was intrigued by the maneuvering of your primary German force following the initial capture of Moscow. There seemed to be some oscillation, allowing the Russians to regain control temporarily before mounting a strong offensive to retake Moscow. Was this part of your strategic plan, or did you adapt your tactics midway, perhaps accepting a less-than-ideal outcome in the short term?

2. It appears to me that you could have mitigated even more damage in WGR by mobilizing all Italian forces before the +263 battle took place. Was there a deliberate decision to spare the Italians?

3. Hypothetically, if the Allies had achieved a top 10-20% dice outcome, with the US preserving a significant number of fighters and the UK minimizing losses during subsequent attacks, do you believe this could have tipped the balance in favor of the Axis? Considering that the Allies would have had two full turns to fortify Berlin against ~75 mech and 23 tanks rushing to recapture it. How apprehensive were you before that crucial battle?

[JDOW]

Question 3 obviously refers to the final attack on Berlin.