@wizmark Dice continuing in my favor, hopefully they even out.
L22 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V
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Update. Put up a blocker in the Med.
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Just saw that you took Suriname from the Dutch with US. What I know you can only do that after having declared war on the true neutrals and only ANZAC and UK may grab dutch territories during NCM. Hence changed it, but if I’m wrong we can change it back.
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I believe it is a legal move, but I am not sure. The Dutch are listed as Friendly to the US and Custodianship to the Brits and ANZAC. So, you may well be correct. Have you tried a simulation to see if the AA program changes possession to the US or does not?
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Just ran a sim. You are correct, moving a US land unit into Suriname on NCM does not change its ownership. Please edit.
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That’s how I would interpret the rules from the Pacific:
“These two powers also have an arrangement with the Dutch government in exile (Holland having been captured by Germany) and have taken guardianship of the Dutch territories in the Pacific. As a result, they are free to move units into these territories as a noncombat movement at any time, as long as they have not yet been captured by Japan. They may actually take control of them (gaining their IPC income) by moving land units into them. Additionally, the United Kingdom and ANZAC consider attacks against any Dutch territories to be acts of war against them directly. Once a Dutch territory has been captured by Japan, however, it may be captured and controlled by any power.”
Wonder what would happen if US attacked the Dutch? Actually, then they would be at war and already allied to UK and ANZAC, so wouldn’t matter, I guess.
Here’s the german move anyway.
L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg
Game History
Round: 5
Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod Germans take Novgorod from Russians 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Nenetsia Germans take Nenetsia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda Germans take Vologda from Russians 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Ukraine 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Ukraine 1 submarine moved from 128 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 127 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine Combat - Germans Battle in Ukraine Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in 127 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 127 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 127 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 127 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 127 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 21 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Smolensk 8 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Smolensk 3 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Northern Belarus 9 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus 8 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 3 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria 10 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia 2 bombers moved from Ukraine to Leningrad 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy 1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 1 fighter moved from Ukraine to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Ukraine to Smolensk Place Units - Germans 1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone 1 factory_minor placed in Leningrad 2 fighters placed in Western Germany 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0,67
Germans regular : 0,83
British regular : -0,33
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Pardon the delay. I did not scroll dow/see to the G-5 file in the last post.
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No problem. I’ll move J then.
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Just posted RUS-5 file.
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L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg
Game History
Round: 5
Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai Japanese take Tsinghai from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Honan to Inner Mongolia Japanese take Inner Mongolia from Chinese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia 1 marine moved from Manilla to 21 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 5 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East 1 infantry moved from Korea to Amur Japanese take Amur from Russians 1 infantry moved from Shantung to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia Combat - Japanese Battle in Soviet Far East Battle in Siberia Trigger Japanese Destroy Factories Siberia: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Japanese in Siberia Non Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Siberia Has Fallen to Japanese Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Siberia_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed_Japanese attached to Japanese 1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 2 carriers moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 tactical_bomber moved from Jehol to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Shansi to Southern Manchuria 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Hopei to Szechwan 1 artillery moved from Shan State to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Honan 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from Davao to French Indo China 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Davao 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Jehol to Southern Manchuria 1 tactical_bomber moved from 5 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 40 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 factory_minor placed in Kwangtung 2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Japan 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China 3 infantry placed in Shantung Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 65 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 74 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg
Game History
Round: 5
Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 destroyer and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Albania to 99 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 infantry moved from Albania to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tunisia 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia Italians take Tunisia from French Combat - Italians Battle in Tunisia Battle in Malta Non Combat Move - Italians 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 2 destroyers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Smolensk Place Units - Italians 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 destroyer placed in 95 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 18 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Edited the forgotten NCM move of the UK BB from SZ 55 to SZ43. If you won’t allow, please edited BB back to SZ55.
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An overlook, not impacted by Italy. Completely ok.
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Thanks.
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Seems I’ve forgotten about garrisoning Holland and Normandie all the time. Just remembered that one now. Bummer.
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If you have units in the area that could have been garrisoned there, go ahead and make the edits and add the ipcs.
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I put them there now in G6. Have missed it G2-G5, although I always had the possibility. 4 x 3 = 12 IPC. However, I consider them lost. My bad.
L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg
Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 4 artilleries, 1 fighter, 12 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Kirov Germans take Kirov from Russians 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Gorky Germans take Gorky from Russians 1 armour moved from Smolensk to Yaroslavl Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians 1 armour moved from Yaroslavl to Smolensk 1 armour moved from Smolensk to Bryansk Germans take Bryansk from Russians 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Smolensk 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Urals 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Stalingrad 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium Combat - Germans Strategic bombing raid in Urals Russians roll AA dice in Urals : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Bombing raid in Urals rolls: 8 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in Urals causes 6 damage total. Strategic bombing raid in Stalingrad Russians roll AA dice in Stalingrad : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Bombing raid in Stalingrad rolls: 7 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in Stalingrad causes 6 damage total. Battle in 127 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 127 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 127 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 127 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 127 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 1 aaGun, 9 artilleries, 17 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Belarus to Smolensk 8 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 10 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 1 bomber moved from Stalingrad to Smolensk 1 bomber moved from Urals to Smolensk 1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Malta 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Eastern Poland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Eastern Poland 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Malta Place Units - Germans 1 fighter placed in Western Germany 1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Leningrad Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 artillery and 3 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Poland: 1 artillery and 3 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 4 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Germany 3 infantry placed in France Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 57 PUs; end with 58 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 61 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0,67 British regular : 0,67 Russians AA : -0,33 -
Blitzed Yaroslavl and Bryansk with tanks, which apparently took a wrong turn and ended up in Smolensk, where they accidentally killed 2AA before committing suicide. With your permission, I returned the tanks to Russia and restored the German AA.
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