Farmboy (X) vs Erinmores (A +14) BM

[erinmores]

@farmboy NO SCRAMBLE. GL.

[farmboy]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 91 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        1 artillery and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
        3 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France
        1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 106 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 submarines
            British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
            Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        Battle in France
            Germans attack with 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                AA fire in France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in France, round 2 : 8/17 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the French, 4 infantry owned by the Germans, 6 infantry owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in France
                Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in France, round 3 : 7/12 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                French roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter in France, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the French, 1 fighter owned by the French, 1 armour owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France
            Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
            Germans converts factory_major into different units
            Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 29
            Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
        Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry
            Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 6/15 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                5 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia
            Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
        Battle in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the French, 1 submarine owned by the Germans, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
        Battle in 111 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 6.00
British : -2.50
AA fire in France : : -0.17
French : 0.00
Neutral_Allies : -0.67

Savegame

[farmboy]

I was going to assume that you would take the destroyer as casualty in 111 (Battleship already tilted) but posted in case I got that wrong.

[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 91 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        1 artillery and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
        3 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France
        1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 106 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 submarines
            British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
            Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        Battle in France
            Germans attack with 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                AA fire in France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in France, round 2 : 8/17 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the French, 4 infantry owned by the Germans, 6 infantry owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in France
                Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in France, round 3 : 7/12 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                French roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter in France, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the French, 1 fighter owned by the French, 1 armour owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France
            Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
            Germans converts factory_major into different units
            Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 29
            Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
        Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry
            Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 6/15 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                5 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia
            Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
        Battle in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the French, 1 submarine owned by the Germans, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
        Battle in 111 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/4 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                1 battleship owned by the Germans, 1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
            Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship
            Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
        Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French
        triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
        1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany
        1 fighter moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
              Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
              Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
        3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        2 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Germany
        2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        2 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 60 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
        Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 7.50
British : -2.00
AA fire in France : : -0.17
French : 0.00
Neutral_Allies : -0.67

Savegame

[erinmores]

@farmboy Tilt battleship, Cruiser, DD, Battleship OOL

[farmboy]

I posted below the combat move in case my OOL assumption needed to be revisited. But I completed the combat and the order would have been inconsequential as I got enough hits to take out all the units.

[farmboy]

That poor first round of combat in 111 (for both of us) really messed things up though. I had hoped to retreat the battleship after one round of combat, but I didn’t want to finish it with so little damage done.

[erinmores]

@farmboy what happens with all the French/Vichy rules. Do we remember not to use? Does something change?

[farmboy]

@erinmores At the beginning of the French turn (if no British land unit is in South France) most of the French territories that are not occupied by the axis become axis friendly neutrals.The game will do it automatically.

[farmboy]

@farmboy it occurs after the Italy turn as well so all the French units are still hostile to the Axis

[farmboy]

Also, any french territory in which allied units are in stays Allied.

[erinmores]

i have an issue. I am not being allowed to make a noncom move with the russians.

[erinmores]

i cannot move my aa guns.

[farmboy]

It might be because it is the combat move stage?

[erinmores]

never mind sorry

[farmboy]

@erinmores no worries. We all make that mistake.

[erinmores]

not used to it wanting to post the combat move first, I got it. sorry!

[erinmores]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 fighter and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
        2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
        3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Volgograd
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Belarus
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        6 infantry moved from Sakha to Amur
        6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
        1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 aaGuns moved from Russia to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        2 aaGuns moved from Sakha to Amur

    Place Units - Russians
        1 fighter placed in Russia
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod
        Russians undo move 2.
        3 infantry placed in Ukraine
        6 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[erinmores]

japan is up…

[farmboy]

More on Vichy rules. French Equatorial Africa, French Guiana and new hebrides remain allied. French units in Allied territories as well as the destroyer off Madagascar stay allied. And to be clear on my previous comment French territory in which there are other allied units (not French) remain allied. If the territory turns to axis friendly neutral, than the units do too. When the axis occupy the territory, they get the unit. However, once the axis occupy S France, all the vichy units that remain in the game get removed. So Vichy gives the axis a boost early, because it removes allied units, and makes some territories easier to take, but it also gives the allies an advantage later, as all these French territories become territories they can take and draw income from.