Thanks for reply, so it sounds like most of us agree that the rule is written poorly and that there is a logical “AA” way to interpret it, thanks!
Axis & Allies and Zombies Q+A
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@smo63 said in Axis & Allies and Zombies Q+A:
Also they need to elaborate on the non-existing “opening fire step”, see https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/1234065 , please.
They simply copy-pasted the wording from the Revised rulebook, here, even without introducing Offshore Bombardment during the Amphibious Assault rules.
Panther, I know you have been around this forum for a while now…years, correct. And I would only assume that you do know how to play AA at least the basics.
If this is the case, then why would you need anyone to elaborate anything as far as the mechanics of how to play AA. Yes, I understand the zombie portion of it, but just use some common sense. And what is so pressing that some continually demand errata for the questions to the larger picture that keeps you up at night…
Thank you, yes indeed I might have some knowledge about the basics/the rules, maybe that is why @Krieghund appointed me as rules deputy some years ago.
What I am requesting here is some precision and some efforts about wording the rules from WotC. When I am asked for clarifications about the rules by other users I am used to give (and users are used to get) those clarfications supported by quoting the rules and / or the official FAQ.
“Common sense” is nice, but sometimes misleading. When offshore bombardment is not part of the Amphibious Assault rules but appears only in the units characteristics of the battleship - and is worded there exactly like it was in Revised - what is common sense here?
a) Offshore bombardment has not been intended to be part of the AAZ rules (see 1941 edition) at all?
b) It was intended but is worded poorly and (still) missing in the Amphibious Assault part of the rules, too?I usually discuss issues like this one with @Krieghund, but we agreed that “common sense” allows for both interpretations.
Users often don’t ask for “common sense” but want evidence/quotes from the rules/FAQ.
All I have been asking for in this topic has been
- a correction of the AAZ 1942 2nd ed. setup that should have been ready from day 1 of the release
- a rewording of the Amphibious Assault rules to introduce Offshore Bombardment (including but not limited to the “fire back”-aspect), so that it matches the AAZ-ruleset (instead of the Revised ruleset). At least we know now from Scott’s words that Offshore Bombardment is a part of the AAZ-ruleset.
I can’t see anything wrong with these requests.
Doing a good ‘job’ for the community is what motivates me. Thank you for asking!
(PS: Actually it does not keep me up at night. I wrote my posting you refer to at about 6.30 pm. My timezone is 6 to 9 hours ahead of yours (depending on where you live). So I do get enough sleep. :slightly_smiling_face: )
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@taamvan :+1:
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Hi all,
Do we know if WOTC are going to be putting out an official FAQ/Errata for this game any time soon? My gaming group want to start playing it and I will have to teach them all the rules, so would really prefer to have up-to-date knowledge.
Thank you so much for your help
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@lozmoid it usually takes a year or two, because they dont want to have to revisit that twice. Ive played a dozen times and dont have any unresolved questions about the rules personally. Do you?
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@lozmoid I have not yet been given a publication date.
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Card references Libya. Libya not marked on map. We placed zombie in North Africa. Right?
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There are two decks of cards included in the game: one for AAZ and one for AA42. It sounds like you’re using the AA42 deck for AAZ.
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We finally figured that out. Thanks.
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I have a question about fighting zombies in a territory you control. We’ve been treating zombies like transports or submarines where you can move some forces through and dedicate others to fight the zombies.
First is this correct?
Secondly if this is correct, can we dedicate airplanes only to fight the zombies (only 1 round)?
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@jordan111 said in Axis & Allies and Zombies Q+A:
I have a question about fighting zombies in a territory you control. We’ve been treating zombies like transports or submarines where you can move some forces through and dedicate others to fight the zombies.
First is this correct?
Yes, as long as the units passing through are making a valid combat move.
Secondly if this is correct, can we dedicate airplanes only to fight the zombies (only 1 round)?
Yes.
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I am creating this to clarify for myself and anyone else that might be questioning the AAZ rulebook. :)
(1) Z.I.B.R.A. Suits - Each of your infantry units in a territory prevents one zombie in that territory from attacking in the Zombie Attack phase (phase 2).
– So, this means that if you have territory that you are controlling and have 5 infantry and 7 zombies only 2 zombies can attack in phase 2?(2) Z-4 Explosives - While you have artillery present in a battle, your units in that battle now hit zombies on a 5 or 6.
– Is this saying that any of your units (infantry, tank, fighter, etc.) can do this or is it just your artillery units?(3) Chainsaw Tanks - Each tank that ends its combat move in a territory containing zombies may roll a combat die to attack those zombies before combat.
– This is pretty self explanatory; but, I question how the verbiage really applies to “ends it combat move”. If there is a territory you control with tanks and zombies in it do you really have to physically move your tank to do the “Chainsaw Tanks” technology? I would say ‘no’ because I believe when you announce where you are going to have combat is technically your ‘combat move’.(4) Air-D.O.T.s - When you have no land units present in a battle against only zombies, your aircraft may continue combat for one additional round against zombies.
– This one I think is completely clear. Questions?(5) Deadnapper Convoys - In non-combat movement, your unused transports may pick up one or two zombies from friendly or zombie-controlled territories and deploy them into any territory as though they were infantry.
– This is pretty straightforward. Questions?(6) Zombie Mind Control Ray - Once per turn you may non-combat move a zombie from a territory your units occupy into an adjacent non-neutral territory (even an enemy territory).
– This one is a big one for me. Is it once-per-turn-per-territory or you can only move one, single zombie on your non-combat turn? -
Questions such as these are better asked in the Official Q&A thread, which is stickied so that others can find them later.
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@Krieghund Good point - and merged.
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(1) Correct.
(2) All of your units in the battle gain the ability.
(3) Any territory containing zombies and your tanks where combat occurs counts.
(6) It is one single zombie, not one per territory.
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@Krieghund thank you for all of the clarification.
I am personally disappointed about Tech 6 though. I was hoping for one zombie per territory per turn. Not sure if it would be true or not but i thought it might speed up the game and be like the ‘herds’ in the Walking Dead. And I don’t see how moving a single zombie would really make a difference. Maybe I am not seeing the bigger picture.
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Regarding TECH-2 Z-4 Explosives:
I have to admit ‘we’ interpreted this wrongly then: only your artillery units will hit on a 5 or 6 when you have this tech.
This seems to be a very powerful technology then…I will respond to the other questions and answers later.
Thanks for asking the questtisn (@gregkamp) and answering them (@Krieghund). -
Regarding Tech 5: Deadnapper Convoys:
As I asked here:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/33676/aaz-rule-question-technology-5-deadnapper-convoys“Must these Zs be dropped off immediatelly? Or may you keep them on board? And maybe move to a location further away next turn and drop these Zs of there?”
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Regarding Tech 6: ZMCR
As far as I know the following is the case:
- You must have at least one unit in that area
- But you do not have to control it. If you have a unit in an area controlled by your ally you can use this technology.
- Only controlling the area is not enough. You must have at least one unit in that very territory.
- But that unit can be a factory. So yes, a factory is enough.
This is based on answers by @DoManMacgee and @Krieghund here: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/32927/aaz-rule-question-technology-6
I hope I summarized this correctly.
One last question: if you play a version of Axis and Allies with Anti Aircraft guns does an AA gun qualify as a unit here so you can use this tech?
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@thrasher1 said in Axis & Allies and Zombies Q+A:
One last question: if you play a version of Axis and Allies with Anti Aircraft guns does an AA gun qualify as a unit here so you can use this tech?
My guess is: yes, it is.It is.
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Zs capuring a capital
Zs capture a territory during Phase 3 of a turn. So if enough Zs end up in an otherwise ‘empty’ capital the Zs will take over this capital.
(See: Phase 3 / page 14 / right column)As far as I know this can happen:
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When an enemy attacks your capital and only Zs are left after combat. Then during Phase 3 of the next turn the Zs will capture the capital and take the money.
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When you yourself (or an ally) attack the Zs in your capital (which is still controlled by you at that point) and after combat only Zs are left (so they capture capital in next turn and get the money).
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When during Phase 2 (Zs Attack) all of your units are destroyed by Zs.
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When enough Zs are moved into your capital by cards or technologies.
Anyway, the actual capture happens in Phase 3. But at page 23 (left column) under 'Step 9: Conclude Combat and Capture territory it also mentions: “If the Capital was captured by Zs…”.
But this does not happen in that very moment of the game.
PS: I really like the concept that a capital has a certain resistance/buffer against being taken over by Zs…
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