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Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone)
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I heard on Fox News earlier today that on the “conservative ranking” based on past actions that is done by some conservative group (I do not remember all of the details) that McCain scored an 83, which was quoted as being “Conservative Hall-of-Fame” for most Republicans. I think they said Reagan was only an 86, Bush 41 a 79, and Bush 43 a 72.
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I wouldn’t rank Bush Jr. nor McCain that high. I’d put Jr at about 50 and McCain at about 30. That’s assuming it’s out of 100 and that the percentage they do not have represents how liberal they lean.
In other words, I view Bush as a moderate. Neither fully engaged as a Conservative nor fully engaged as a Liberal.
McCain, on the other hand, seems to be MUCH more engaged with the Liberals and the Democrat Party as a whole then a Republican or conservative. You just don’t see bills that say Hastert-McCain or McCain-Blunt (Roy Blunt, MO, is the Republican Whip right now.)
But you see A LOT of legislation where he teams up with a liberal and works to further the liberal’s legislation by putting, ostensibly and on paper at least, a republican’s name on it too.
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This group is seen as very reliable, and they look at the whole record, not Rush soundbites.
That is probably where the discrepancy is arising…
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I don’t have Rush’s sound bites, but I don’t need them either. I remember 2000 and I remember all the cr@p McCain has supported SINCE 2000.
If this group gave him an 83/100 then this group is self deluded or using data that is no longer relevant to what he is doing today.
Or, maybe he got an 83/1000, then they could be spot on.
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McCain is no conservative. It is utter nonsense to even consider him as one. One cannot look at bills such as McCain Feingold and consider them conservative. Being a Republican does not make one a conservative.
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It is from the American Conservative Union, and the actual stat is 82.3%
You can see all of ACU’s rankings here.
http://www.acuratings.org/Even Michael Savage re-posted info regarding it, apparently in agreement with it.
http://www.savage-productions.com/McCain_Conservative_Rating.html -
I see McCain, but you have to take into consideration they gave Dick Turbin, ere Durbin and Obama relatively high Conservative scores too.
Not exactly an agency choice that engenders warm feelings in the cockles of my heart.
I do not see Romney though. Then again, Romney isn’t in the House nor Senate and the ACU appears to only be rating House and Senate.
And, for the record, I don’t care what Savage says or does not say. I don’t follow radio personalities, I make up my own mind and follow my own mind based on the facts.
The facts are, McCain only works with Democrats. He does NOT work with Republicans. Maybe he’s voted a couple of ways that lean conservative, but he’s hardly been the champion of conservatism.
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THANK YOU SWITCH!
Doing my McCain is too a conservative dance
ah, the success of reality. it always wins.
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so can we say it now
McCain wins
he s the man this year 8-)
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As I showed:
He’s hardly a conservative, the links don’t really show him to be one and the data is circumspect. Does it go over his whole life? Well then military service counts a little and having faith too. But I don’t think EITHER is making him a conservative today.
AND
The Reagan family views him as unconservative. Since Reagan redefined what it is to be conservative, that means that he does NOT meet the definition of conservative.
And if, by some fluke, he does win the primary, it will be the worst Republican Turn out in November in the history of the United States of America.
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ACU uses an objective standard.
Sean Hannity thinks Guilianni is conservative :roll:
Rush Limbaugh thinks that McCain is a Liberal
Michael Savage thinks McCain is a Conservative
Boortz thinks McCain and Hillary combined are the Anti-Christ.It is just a matter of how objective you want to be…
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@ncscswitch:
Boortz thinks McCain and Hillary combined are the Anti-Christ.
who is Boortz
let me guess
Jehowas witness :lol:
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Neal Boortz. Libertarian talk show host out of Atlanta, about 400 stations in syndication.
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it will be “the worst republican turnout in history” why is that, b/c jen wont be there. :evil:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Jen one question for you
lets say if you would been high positioned in Republican party and
if McCain would ask you to be his VicePresident would you accept itthis is theoretically but honestly, i want to know
who knows, what can happen in 4years if he goes again for the White House
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common man isnt so bad as you re tryin to point him out
we just need you to say that you would rather see Hilary then him in the White House :lol:
Jen, a firm conservative…but i think you would like rather him than Hillary, or am i wromng???
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I would accept being running mate to ANY candidate… Hillary, McCain, even Hitler if he was running :wink:
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Sure, I’d be his VP because I’d be one heart beat away from being the first woman president. A heart beat I would be VERY close too, mind you. And, if he did survive, I’d be perfectly positioned to tell the country all about his mistakes and how I had to hold his hand through every decision so he didn’t have a heart attack when a conservative decision was made in the white house. How I single handedly instructed the marines to keep the democrat elite out of the white house at all possible opportunities so that republicans could be staged close to McCain and influence his decisions. :P
But, back to reality.
I would prefer Hillary.
Hillary is a declared democrat. When Hillary screws up the nation, Conservatives can use her like they did Jimmy Carter to get a real conservative in later.
And Balung, I’m not kidding. Read some letters to the editor. Look at some polls. Republicans, by an large, are NOT turning out for McCain. His supporters are primarily of people who consider themselves liberal. Well, if they consider themselves liberal, how do you think they are gong to vote in November? For the Junior League Liberal, or the the real mccoy?
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The polls disagree with you Jen…
McCain is favored 2 to 1 over Romney, and that is coming from FOX News (not exactly a bastion of liberal ideology…)
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I’m in the “Anybody but McCaine” camp. I’ll vote for Mitt on Tuesday, I would have prefered Thompson or Guliani. If McCaine gets the nomination, I will seriously conisder sitting this one out. If were gonna have a liberal president, I’d prefer that person had a D in front of their name.
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