A newbie facing the same dilemma. Thanks for letting me know that it is the second generation. But can you please elaborate how that come?
How to use Russia Restricted
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22 is pretty much the cap in most 2nd edition games though. 24 is really stretching it.
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Not really… Last games on this board were in the 23-24 range…
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Is it possible to play 2nd with the Hasbro edition by emailing the saved games??
or has this been broken since windows XP/Vista came out?
If it is possible i may be up for a game.
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every game I’ve seen in AAMC (where i still play this accursed version of a wonderful game) the bids are averaging in the 18-21 range depending on if you want 6 infantry in E. Europe or 7. Rare is the game I see over 21 now a days. Though, with 21 I would be sore tempted to put them in Japan and walk over the Allies that much faster.
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Jen i think you can get Darth to accept a game with a PAsia bid of 24, with Darth taking the Allies :-D
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I thought we agreed that a PAsia bid of at least 32 was needed to give the axis a fair shot… Jen if you want a Pasia bid of 21 I will agree to that…
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What is everyone talking about here. I use to play Axis and Allies during my Freshman year of college against experienced players and the Axis would win with no bids and no Russia restricted. I played as Japan, and it did not matter what Germany did. I played 2 to 3 times and everytime the Axis won. Then again I was Japan.
Point being I do not see how the Axis need such a high advantage. Please give me 21 IPCs to start off as an addition to Japan. I can easily see myself taking, India, China, and Russia all on turn 1. Plus with that much starting IPCs. I may even be able to Austriala (I know misspelling). Point being as Japan I would have a huge IPC increase on turn 1 and start my march towards Moscow.
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I going on holiday for a week, but after that I will play you twice if you want… First you can be the axis and me the Allies without a bid. After that game I will give you a bid of 21 for a PowerAsia… How do you like that?
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I going on holiday for a week, but after that I will play you twice if you want… First you can be the axis and me the Allies without a bid. After that game I will give you a bid of 21 for a PowerAsia… How do you like that?
How would we do this? Is there some on-line program or something?
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Play-by-email (PBEM) or Play-by-forum (PBF)
Turns are posted in the games section, there are several programs that will roll dice and email the results or you can roll here using a dice rolling command, and yes there is a map program that can be emailed back and forth for easier play.
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I see Bashir gaining 2 wins…
:mrgreen:
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Haven’t played for a while… And I am currently only observing Revised games… When I come back from my holiday, can you explain TripleA to me? That program is very useful IMO…
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@ncscswitch:
I see Bashir gaining 2 wins…
:mrgreen:
This not about who wins or not. This is an experiment to see if the Axis can win with no bid. From my experience they win pretty often. So I am interested to see if it is just the people I play against or perhaps I have a very efficent game strategy that allows for it to happen.
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@ncscswitch:
I see Bashir gaining 2 wins…
:mrgreen:
This not about who wins or not. This is an experiment to see if the Axis can win with no bid. From my experience they win pretty often. So I am interested to see if it is just the people I play against or perhaps I have a very efficent game strategy that allows for it to happen.
OK Nuclear, I have to be honest here…
2 years ago when I joined these boards, I came in with some pretty grandiose claims regarding Classic. I was a hell of a player and almost never lost a game (and never lost to the best the Hasbro AI could throw at me). I was pretty cocky.
Then I had something like 7 straight losses on these boards… got my butt handed to me as I observed highly refined strats from some folks who REALLY knew what they were doing, and they used those strats to mop up the game board with me.
I did eventually win a few games of Classic, but I have switched exclusively to playing Revised now, because there is more flexibility in it.
Bashir and Darth are two of the best Classic gamers I have ever observed (though i have seen far more of Darth’s games than Bashir’s). And I will tell you this…
IF you go into a game against either one of them as the Axis without a bid in the low 20’s, it will be a VERY short game for you (as it was for me…) -
DM is way better than I am… Actually most I know about classic is what I observed in games on this forum and especially Darth’s games and I even learned a lot from AS…(how weird it may sound, but behind all that trashtalk he had some very good ideas about the game) But if you still want to play I am game. We can even play with a normal bid, but if you are used to winning as the Axis, without a bid, it may be some sort experimental match as well…
We will see if I am back from my holiday.
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I said I see 22 usually. I never said I bid that. When forced into playing Classic, I usually bid 40 IPC (10 Infantry, 2 Armor in E. Europe) so I can be guaranteed the allies. =)
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Nuclear I am back from my vacation. Do you still want to play?
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I guess we won’t play anymore…
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@ncscswitch:
@ncscswitch:
I see Bashir gaining 2 wins…
:mrgreen:
This not about who wins or not. This is an experiment to see if the Axis can win with no bid. From my experience they win pretty often. So I am interested to see if it is just the people I play against or perhaps I have a very efficent game strategy that allows for it to happen.
OK Nuclear, I have to be honest here…
2 years ago when I joined these boards, I came in with some pretty grandiose claims regarding Classic. I was a hell of a player and almost never lost a game (and never lost to the best the Hasbro AI could throw at me). I was pretty cocky.
Then I had something like 7 straight losses on these boards… got my butt handed to me as I observed highly refined strats from some folks who REALLY knew what they were doing, and they used those strats to mop up the game board with me.
I did eventually win a few games of Classic, but I have switched exclusively to playing Revised now, because there is more flexibility in it.
Bashir and Darth are two of the best Classic gamers I have ever observed (though i have seen far more of Darth’s games than Bashir’s). And I will tell you this…
IF you go into a game against either one of them as the Axis without a bid in the low 20’s, it will be a VERY short game for you (as it was for me…)Hi everyone I’m pretty new to this but I’m a veteran A&A player I just bought the revised boardgame and plan to play it soon with a group me and my brother want to start as like a weekly thing.
That’s beside the point.
I’ve played the computer game against the AI/Humans and I played the hell out of the old boardgame I’ll say that I think I’m pretty good.
That being said I’ve gotta say that I’ve heard a billion frickin’ times that Russia is too strong, or Germany’s too strong, and even gave player’s in groups I’ve played in a million house advantages and they still lost.
Bottom line is that some people suck and will literally quit after losing Karelia or Ukraine….all I can say is cowboy up, be a different country, or quit crying about it.
Every nation in the game has advantages and disadvantages I love the game wether I win or lose and with truly good players I can sometimes see the point. but I can’t stand those players that always have to be Russia or Germany and claim that the rules made them lose
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Sure… That was a lot of strategic input from your side. If you are so tough to play without any alterations of the rules you can be the axis and I will play allies… See who is whining after the game…
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