Possible new rule book, and/or boxes with correct stuff?


  • @MaherC:

    I’m hoping that if enough people complain they won’t make the same mistake w/Europe, or we’re all going to be back here in 4 months crying about Stukas.

    Maybe that’s my stupid faith in humanity and the American worker…

    I agree. While I still hope to continue to keep calling and/or e-mailing, I do hope they at least learn for the next one.


  • Is Cal Moore still employed?

    What happened to him? Did anybody have a ‘talk’ with him about the typos?


  • I have to give Krieghund an AMEN here.  He is one of the ONLY people involved in the game creation, who is reaching out to fans, to try and help them out, and support a product that was at some point improperly managed and sent to consumers.  Atleast HE is standing by HIS contribution to the product.

    As for people who whine about the 6 tac bombers, You guys don’t have it bad at all.

    After a month and a half I still can’t even play the game.  I opened my box to find 2 maps of China :S  I called, they shipped, then I called back and they said they screwed up the address, and they shipped it again.  But… who knows.

    I’d bitch about my 6 tac bombers though too I suppose, if I had a board to put them on. I guess the end reality is mistakes happen.


  • Maybe WOTC should have more playtesters who don’t know the rules, that way when they try to understand their screwed up rulebook they can ask WOTC all the same questions before the game is released.


  • @gargantua:  that’s why I buy from my local game shop.  return much?

    I wouldn’t say we are whining.  I think we are trying to get WOTC to put out a better product.  You know, so things like that happened to you won’t happen again.  I would think that you would be all for a little WOTC complaining to get them to put out a quality game.  Hopefully you get your board, I hope that you are calling them daily asking for tracking numbers and the like.  Again, anyone who has purchased anything from newegg.com should know the level of cust serv that can happen out there, and they are an internet reseller, not a manufacturer like WOTC.

    I think that there are many out there who slurp some of the members of this community, and don’t take the time to think for themselves.  There are people out there who can’t read the rulebook, or if they did, they missed major points of the game, yet they get on here and jump up and down and shout how this game is balanced because there’s no way Larry or Kreig would have let WOTC put out something so uneven…

    And yet now i’m reading posts that ask if they can use Kamikazes on J1.  People don’t know when or how the US enters the war.

    It is painfully obvious that WOTC has little in the way of quality control.  All I’m asking for is that we keep complaining, squeaky wheel gets the grease.  They don’t like to hear it?  Good.  I don’t know about you guys, but I spent a lot of $$ on this game to use as a source of repeatable entertainment.  Times suck, board game night is up all across the US.  Silver lining?  My friends are getting back into A&A.  But when the rules change weekly, or waffle from one way to the other and then back to the original form in the span of a week…it gets a little old.

    The game feels rushed.  I was actually thrilled that Pac40 was coming out first, what with the lack of TV/MOVIE/attention paid to that side of ww2, but now I wish they had released Europe40 first (in June w/ DDay and such) and then follow on with Pac40 in December of this year.

    Maybe the pushed it to cash in on the state of the economy?  Maybe it was the plan all along?  I don’t know.  Don’t care.  Either way, the game wasn’t final.  This is the equivalent to Microsoft Vista (which actually wasn’t that bad honestly) but it was pushed out early, and people complained and cried and they destroyed it in the media…and now we have Windows 7.  Hoping we can do the same to effect change on Europe40 and the Global setup.

    Give some of us the rulebook early.  Open it up to more playtesters.  This isn’t Madden 11 we’re talking about here, you’re not going to see a torrent link on piratebay for the rulebook and map.  I mean really.


  • it feels rushed…. and it lacks polish… and it is missing things… and there are typos and a not very good rulebook… and the wrong battleboard…

    but i have to say i do not think the game is unbalanced… or at least we can not tell yet…

    i do think they need more playtesters in general for all their games,
    but they did a good job with this one

    now they just need better editors and publishers…


  • I wish Larry would take his great games to another company. I’ve had enough of COTC.  :-(


  • @Gargantua:

    I have to give Krieghund an AMEN here.  He is one of the ONLY people involved in the game creation, who is reaching out to fans, to try and help them out, and support a product that was at some point improperly managed and sent to consumers.  Atleast HE is standing by HIS contribution to the product.

    Thanks, but I’m just the “point man”.  Larry and WotC are behind this errata effort 100%, otherwise I wouldn’t be allowed to do it.

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