1941 New Turn Order: China goes before Japan

@general-6-stars Yes, I would like to see that.

I was hoping you’d post these!

@Wolfshanze:

Ya… I believe the 1984 Classic A&A map had every territory worth at least 1 (and of course others more).  I’m not really a huge fan of territories worth nothing.  If I was more talented, I’d be breaking into the Supreme map files and jiggling with the numbers across the board for sure.  I still also see some value and charm to the original 1984 Axis and Allies classic game.  While the new boards and new units are vastly superior to the 80s version, some concepts were fun, such as every territory being worth something and a nice balance of money values, not too high, not too low.

Yes, there was the infantry wall problem in classic, but it can/should be easily solved by reintroducing artillery to 1941, which is simple as saying “here they are, have at it”.

I think 1941 is closer to being Classic A&A than 1942 is, with the exception of the income issue.  I was pulling up some numbers, and this is what I came up with… here’s the starting incomes of each nation based on version:

Classic A&A (1984 release)
USSR: 24, Germany: 32, UK: 30, Japan: 25, US: 36

1941 A&A
USSR: 7, Germany: 12, UK: 12, Japan: 9, US: 17

1941 A&A Custom Double IPC proposal
USSR: 14, Germany: 24, UK: 24, Japan: 18, US: 34

Even a simple doubling of the IPC values of the marked territories in 1941, would greatly increase income, but STILL be less than classic (or 1942 for that matter)… and toss in some artillery, you should be able to break those infantry walls.  Might be something to toy with, and its a lot simpler to double values than try to introduce new rules that need to be tracked.

I played with same cost for ground units but cheaper boat.
Sub 5
DD 6
CA 9
CV 12
BB 15
TP 7 (1 hit, but not totally defenseless, AA gun on board)

It allows more interesting purchase.

Planes were special
Fg 6
TcB 8
StB 10

Nice ideas. Thanks for posting. You have probably seen that many here do the same thing.

It would be fun to include the Chinese Communists as a special guerrilla power that would give the Soviet player a nice break from the drudgery of mounting a possibly futile defense of Moscow. I have a few thoughts:

-In guerrilla fashion, the Chinese Communists may place units in Japanese territories, if they are occupied they act as blockers for Japan’s next turn and if empty they change ownership.

-During combat, all surviving guerrilla units “hide” after the first round and the battle ends. In essence this borrows from 1914’s contested territory concept, and the presence of guerrillas sabotaging production can be simulated with Japan collecting no income from the territory.

-Communist forces may never move into a territory occupied by any Allied unit.

-In order to generate some income, the communists should get a token NO for Soviet support, maybe 2 IPC as long as any Russian territory is linked to any Chinese (Nationalist or Communist) territory.

The vichy rules reminds me of the one from xeno games.  I think their’s was to roll for the fleet like yours except uk and germany each got one chance at the fleet and 2-4 was scuttle. I like your idea of rolling for individual ships. Maybe make it individual sz’s?

On the territories they rolled 50-50 free or vichy. If it went vichy it and everything in it turned german. I think the allies were allowed to use free french areas any way they wanted,but if they actually attacked a FF territory to take control of it, all remaining FF turned vichy. If FIC went vichy it went to japan.

It went something like that anyways.

No not at all. Never felt that even once.

Just had to clarify the rules so when you play it’s done correctly.

1.  Where did you get the “buttons” your pieces are glued to?  I can’t find anything thats close.  I even thought about painting pennies or nickels (US 1 cent or 5 cent pieces) to glue my pieces on. Would be cheaper than buying anything i’ve seen.

Washers bought from “do-it center” Hillman fender washers– 1/8x3/4— item # 290001— box of 100 for $5 bucks…you can find them on internet and order

2.  Where did you get your pieces from.  And what size are they?  They look like 1/72 or 15 mm.  Having trouble finding good quality but inexpensive artillery, tanks, planes and ships.

Its all skytrex.com stuff  15mm infantry, 1/285 miroarmor, 1/2400 scale naval… about a buck each piece and if you place a large order shipping is free

3.  What size did you blow your map to?

60x36 from AAA flag and banner for about $155 bucks printed on 1/4 thick plastic sheets with vinyl decal applied. www.AAAflagandbanner.com  you send the link and money they print and ship.