All I hear is wah wah wah, Muslim, wah.
Me : you is like you : muslims
Now i understand everything. That makes perfect sence.
Having a very difficult time thinking of who I am going to vote for. I am evenly split. I used to like McCain a lot more, but I am worried he is drifting more and more to the right…which some of you don’t believe…others think its a good thing…but personally I don’t. I support his stance on Iraq whole-heartedly, I trust him, and I respect him more than Clinton or Obama. However, I favor Clinton or Obama’s (supposed) stances on pretty much everything else. Trying to weigh the importance of these issues makes my decision change daily. Anyone else with this problem or am I the only moderate stupid like this?
Yemble:
If it makes you feel better, he’s only PRETENDING to drift to the right in hopes of seeing us show up and vote against Obama or Clinton (which would be for him.)
But he’s no where near Conservative. He’d need a life altering event (like God talking to him or something) to find his conservative roots again.
So you have three choices:
Ultra Liberal - Obama
Liberal - Clinton
Mostly Liberal - McCain
There are no conservatives running this election cycle.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3451323.ece
just another indepth look at obama. from a black british leader, about how obama is bad for ending racism. b/c he plays it like a fiddle. and he states about how with the help of liberals, blacks have been ramming white guilt at a country that doesnt deserve it. but it scores political points. democratic liberals dont care about america at all.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article3455572.ece
thought i’d throw this one in too. its about how the media has changed its tune to swoon for obama. and McCain went from mr. respectable to mr. grumpy white man hypocrite.
i remember a few people just a year ago saying republicans who thought the media was completely biased were wrong. i wonder what they say now. are they still ignorant? or do they choose to lie on purpose, for the sake of party loyalty. any which way they are truly terrible people, those who cant see the way that the media tries to subliminally sway there minds. they are the sheep with a wolf as a shepherd.
its so amazing that even the clintons have picked up on it. boo hoo, they had the liberal media on their side for 8 years of nonsense and socialism and attacking americans in america……(waco, ruby ridge, elian gonzales)
To sum up my thoughts on the issue, I agree with everyone here about the lack of a conservative. I feel like 2 party politics has hindered america, since both major parties are seemingly becoming more and more centrist, and in then end you arent stuck with much of a choice.
The lack of real right and left wing, liberal and conservatives in politics is the reason I listen to the opinions of people like Michael Savage. Even though I disagree with him on a lot of issues, its refreshing to hear radicalism instead of the standard politico-speak of every candidate in the election.
The nation is not ready for true conservatism. If it was, Ron Paul would be the nominee. instead we want to kid ourselves that we can afford to keep troops all over the world, afford to give every person health care coverage and social security and medicare, afford to run the printing presses night and day and call it “sound fiscal policy”.
How many of you democrat boosters who are male (which I believe is the entire audiance who identifies with the democrat party on this forum) would vote for John McCain if the Governor of Alaska was his running mate?
The Governor is Sarah Palin and she is 42 Years Old. She’s considered the sexiest woman in politics today.
A- I think the media is as a whole not biased toward one extreme or the other so much as it is sensationalist. News is more about presenting current events in an entertainment medium instead of presenting it in a fair and balanced way. I think many Americans think that radio/tv hosts to belittle guests from the other side is not honestly cross examining ideas so much as finding a way to tear the other side down. I do not view this as news.
B- I am curious how much of McCain is posture and how much is substance, this drift. I agree the right does not have much of a choice. I think mostly everyone here would agree that this two party system does not benefit the country. A shame Teddy R. didn’t pull off a victory with his bull moose party. I think that might have broken the mold.
C- thanks for accusing me of not caring for america at all once again…its been a while…or am i just stupid?
D- I would vote for him if Palin was his running mate because maybe then we can try and impeach both the Pres. and the VP at the same time. That or we can have heffner move in and call the White House the playboy mansion. More people would probably care about what goes on in there then. Probably will even get more quality work done there.:) YAY for American politics today!
if you dont see the media bias, well then, you might be, ……
i mean seriously, you cant see the BLATANT obama love, and the blatant tarnishing of McCain. i dont think obama has had a bad story yet. even the bad ones are washed over and “fogotten” by a helpful media.
once again, maybe you just say that for the sake of party loyalty. i’ve met people like that before.
and jen, that lady with her hair down and trying to look sexy, would be ultra sexy, and if she could (sway) me, then i’d be even more inclined to vote for McCain.
All media has a bias in some way or another.
the problem is when they clame not to be but are far left or right. the trend in the media is to lean left more then right though.
way left. they are acting like obama cheerleaders. enough so that even the clintons are complaining about it.
It’s bad when you say your are fair and balanced but swing off center more than anyone else.
And reality has a liberal bias. That’s why the media seems like it.
I never said that media is not biased, I just don’t lump all media as being solely liberal or solely conservative trash talking platforms. I think many do slant one way or the other but what makes it agregious is that they are presenting the information in an entertainment fashion in order to get views not because they give a damn about informing people. I am sorry bung but I thought you were calling me stupid soley for having an opinion which slants me to the left.
@Cmdr:
How many of you democrat boosters who are male (which I believe is the entire audiance who identifies with the democrat party on this forum) would vote for John McCain if the Governor of Alaska was his running mate?
The Governor is Sarah Palin and she is 42 Years Old. She’s considered the sexiest woman in politics today.
I’d do her. :-D
If I were an enemy of America, McCain is the ONE guy I sure as hell wouldn’t vote for.
Hence, I say “McCain for President”.
Clinton’s too caught up in fripperies, Obama’s too young and idealistic.
Between:
Huckabee
Romney
Thompson
Paul
McCain
The one our enemies would prefer MOST is McCain.
Between:
Hillary
Obama
McCain
The ones our enemies would most prefer is Obama.
But comparing the least liberal of the liberals to other liberals does NOT make him conservative.
As for the media, we’ve known for decades they’re hopelessly biased. Why do you think President Reagan dissolved the legislation stopping political speech on the radio!?!? Because he KNEW the only chance he had for fair reporting on what was happening in government was over the air waves, since the video news was in the art of MAKING the news, not REPORTING the news anymore. (Had stopped in the mid 1960’s actually after nearly a century of being good after starting the Spanish American war.)
Sure, Fox is attempting to balance out CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN, but it’s still 1:4 and thus, not really fair and balanced yet.
If the media is going to be a booster for Obama and slander the Clintons, great! It’s about time the Clintons get treated like the media treats Republicans. Maybe they’ll start to realize the monster they created in the 90’s by turning them loose to slander the good names of strong conservatives to force them to retire and thus not oppose the communist programs being supported by the elected Democrat elite.
Just my opinion however. Anything that keeps dems tearing at each others throats is good for America!
fully agreed
Some of you sound wayyyyyy too partisan.
If there was a candidate for the opposing party that you liked more than your party of choice would you vote for them? Would you even admit that you like them? Would you vote for a third party candidate, even if they realistically had no hopes of winning?
