@superbattleshipyamato said in A&A: The Blockgame? (Axis and Allies Eurotrash Variant):
I don’t get that last part though. So tipping them down shows the unit and the number of units is shown on the side facing the opponent?
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Hey guys,
been checking in on this variant off and on, great to see it being worked on again. About the new map, I may have missed the post in recent days, but is the thought to still put the Saharan desert in as impassible again?
For Detroit, I think it would have to be at least 2 spaces worth of sea zones to get shipping to/from Detroit to the Atlantic and it appears that it is the same amount of land territories to move them overland and then onto ships. I don’t think it would be worth the change.
Just regarding the Madagascar thing, in my opinion, if it fell in november then it should go to England, though I do like the thought of it as a axis base with a couple subs off the coast at the start. I know that much was said about moving the date back a couple months but much of the world was drastically different then too. Still, even if no income came historically from Madagascar that doesn’t mean that there wasn’t potential for it. But it just seems best to make it English. (on a nit-picky note, and I’m not trying to argue this, just pointing it out, the wikipedia entry for the Madagascar battle does actually link to the same page that Imp. leader referenced and the entry seems to match pretty well to it, of course he may have been the one that added the link.)
what about bumping up romania by 1 or areas there to make up for the Madagascar revenue? I thought that there was massive oil reserves there at that time held by germany. If that is true, and the european front is not my area of expertise or anything, but 1-3 could be be valuable.
Regarding the pacific front, much of the push that corresponded to pearl harbor was to indonesia areas and the resourses there… places like java, borneo, celebes, sumatra, brunei could all go up a bit too as far as value… if that helps with balance.
just thoughts, if they help great, if not no worries…
I am not saying madagaskar should be british… the battle came latter after this game begins… however all Vichy territories aside from Morroco, upper Algeria and Tunisia should not be colored german and should be either neutral (Vichy) or british controlled. Most of the central formerly Vichy french territories became free french/ british as per revised, while under no circumstances should any german pieces be able to move into Vichy (with the 3 exceptions and southern france).
Under no circumstances does these Vichy neutrals contribute to german economy.I think they are because theybare the same color and people now say “gee i didnt know germany had all that”… only they are right because they didnt… except of course in only this map.
These are items that are way too important to even begin playing such a game… you might as well make greenland part of germany because denmarck is german occupied
and iceland is part of norway and thats german occupied… its the same analogy
fallen empires do not transfer the colonies as part of the conquest. nations have to fight and conquer them.
US occupied Greenland
Britian occupied Iceland and all but 3 of Frances former colonies.
Some suggestions;
Change the colour of Algeria, Niger, French West Africa, West Africa and Madagascar into either British (free French) or Vichy Neutral.
Divide Morocco into three spaces. Small part of the top into Spanish Morocco and the lower half into Rio the Oro. Make them both Spanish Neutral controlled.
Add Portugal
Gilbert Islands should be British not American I think.
Make Mexico and Peru American or make Brazil also Neutral. All three declared war in 1942, and Brazil was by far the latest of the three.
Give Sumatra more IP value, the Dutch East Indies made up for over 75% of Japans oil reserves so these territories deserve some more value.
Several people have asked about the Sahara. If the group likes what I have come up with I will add it to the next draft.
Thats a great idea and will really make things more realistic. I hope you do this.
Excellent deepblue, please add.
Glad you like the addition (it took me the better part of my Saturday to get the border just right), I will add the Sahara.
Now that I have a better understanding of how China works, I would have to agree with pdel21 on the Chinese roundel. If no one has an issue with this I will add the roundel and a city area for Chungking. Please review the proposed change and let me know if you like it.
Yep that works.
Here’s a printout of the original at 36" x 75". I just finished it tonight for a customer…
http://www.eskimo.com/~jimlee/justStuff/mapJob/map1.jpg
What format is the latest being created in?
-jim lee
PLease use PDF extensions.
Jim,
The local print shop asked that I submit in PDF format. I am assuming that this will be true in most cases. I plan to save the fished map with the following settings:
CMYK, 16 bit, 600dpi
If you prefer a different format, let me know.
deepblue
can you do 32 bit ? especially with CMYK
Micoom,
Thanks for the input, glad to see someone else contributing.
I don’t see how dividing Morocco into pieces or adding Portugal will improve game play.
I will update Brazil.
I would rather not tackle the IPCs just yet, figured we could get the map right first.
I will update the Gilbert Islands.
Murraymoto,
Thanks for your input as well,
Added the Sahara.
I agree that the lower islands may need an increase but I would like to hold that thought for another day.
Imp,
The 32 bit option is grayed out. Don’t know why. May have something to do with the original file.
A few other things need to be checked out. I think the map should have the Azores which were a strategic base in the mid atlantic. Probably close to Malta in value to the allies, But also a steping stone for axis bomber attacks on USA.
BTW what is that thing you got around the land masses? those lines that follow the contour of the land. Does that graphic have a name or did you just copy successive patterns of the land mass w/o color to add the outlines?
Lastly, can we get some PDF’s of the set up sheets?
Deepblue…
I just went through a world of nonsense to setup printing for this last map. As far as to getting and installing a copy of photoshop pro. Send the .psp file to me and I can do the conversion & print 'em for you. Hopefully for less than the local shop.
http://www.bionicdonkeys.com/iWeb/Bionic printing/Bionic Printing.html
3’ x Whatever. This one ends up being 75" long.
$1.08/inch x 75" = $81 + Shipping $7.5 = $88.50
-jim lee
I agree with Imperious Leader that Azores should be added. Â It did have strategic value. Â Deepblue, you’re right, Portugal has no value in that they are neutral, although they were sympathetic to the Nazis, if they were a neutral nation, perhaps, but that is dividing up an area, that really doesn’t need to be divided. Â I also agree on not dividing Morocco into 3 parts, you should just have the part that is Vichy(German), and the part covered by the Sahara. Â The Spanish owned part is quite small, and not worth the extra effort. Â With regards to Brazil, they could be neutral given the time period. Â I don’t really mind either way. Â If they are neutral, there could be a mechanism to bring them into the game (at least their IPCs) like the other neutrals.
As for the poster, the last poster, which Positronica put out was a high res jpg I believe, that looked awesome when I printed it on my plotter, so that would do for me quite nicely.
OK I am most defiantly the person to ask when it comes to knowledge pertaining to the value of neutrals in AA. I have full and extensive production numbers for all of these. You need any help on that?
My Bible is Mark Harrisons “the economics of world war II” which is the preeminent literature on this topic IMO.
Ok looking at the map a few things…
I think the yellow for Japan and orange you got for UK are too similiar. I think you should go kaiki for england
I think USA should be drab olive rather than that hunter green you got. Its too dark.
Germany should be less blue grey and more field grey
Soviets should be earth brown or kinda of a brown green mix. Check out a picture of the Soviet soldiers uniform in WW2 for the exaxt color.
China should be a light green or the red you got for russia.
Italy is fine and Japan is fine.
Neutrals should be cream rather than white. White has the look of incomplete ( or lacking a color) I would recolor France and her colonies french blue so people can use the same map and play 1939. In that way they wond have the print 2 maps and secondly, the french are known.
I hope you have some neat rules for this.