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Out of the Box 2nd Edition League Discussion
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Now I am speaking to players who find this after February 3, 25.
Yes, there are several flaws in this game. You are not the first to discover them. Without adjusting the game, the Axis powers have a huge advantage. The players here have chosen to keep the out of box rules not because they are okay with this or some of the silliness in the game, but because it is a great launching point. It is translatable for you.
There is a community of players who have made significant changes and fixes to the game. it is called Balanced Mod 4. Do not expect the same strategies to win in that game as win in your local games. Also, be aware, it not quite balanced. The Axis powers still win most of the time.
For a major modification of the game done by people who love it and wanted to adjust the map, check out Path to Victory. Again, you will have to adjust your tactics and strategy to be success. The Axis powers still have an advantage.
Adjustments:
Less and less games of out of box are played. This community accepts this. I disagree. When you play, and you want to eliminate some of the silliness, ask the opponent for crockett’s mod.- You may never load a transport in a hostile sea zone.
- A nation not at war may not convoy or disrupt lend-lease.
- If the Germans step into Russian territory conquered by the Italians, they may not receive the trade with Russia bonus.
Fixes:
The bid here is something that was created by brilliant people who are very successful. However, many of them have moved on to the other mods and that speaks to a deficiency in their solution. The bid rules are also somewhat arbitrary. And unfortunately, the bids can radically disrupt the turn one dance that the designer has intended. In January, you may advocate for adjusting the league rules. Ask for crockett’s mod.-
Foreign units do not effect lend-lease for Russia.
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You may not rob a nation’s capital of all of its money unless you surround the capital. If the capital is not surrounded, you receive only the territory value of the capital.
Flavor:
Oddly enough, most players here do not like technology. I find this very ahistorical. If you agree, I suggest asking for this technology rule when you play:- Five IPCs buys you a token for technology. Each of those tokens represents a lab that is racing to affect the war. A roll of 6 is a success. Its bonus abilities are immediately applied to all units on the board. The other tokens are not lost but continue to work diligently to help their side win.
Hopefully, in five or fifty years these minor and easily understood adjustments may breathe new life into out of box and may be universally accepted as an adjustment or fix or flavoring of the game for play here or even be in implemented in a new release of the game by its producer.
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@crockett36 Just wanted to note that the bid goes to the Axis in PTV.
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@mikawagunichi great to know. what are the bids on average?
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@crockett36 Since the start of 2024, the average bid has been a bit over 10.
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@mikawagunichi And in your opinion, what is the optimal choice and placement. I am always looking out for new players.
That was the magic of young grasshopper. He gave people a script, a meta, a plan. I haven’t gone to military college, but I’m betting they go over various tactics in a variety of terrains that amounts to scripts given unit composition.
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@crockett36 I wouldn’t say there’s a total consensus on that but a few popular ones are:
- Some extra inf for the initial France and Yunnan attacks
- A couple u-boats for G1 naval attacks
- TT to Jap Carolines fleet / marine next to one of the CA or BBs
- Italian TT / marine
Depends on the exact bid, 11-12 are fairly common as well.
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@mikawagunichi thank you. very helpful.
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Anyone knows where to find the 2024 results?
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Starting 1/1/24 results were no longer put in the old format, but are in the new ELO spreadsheet along with all prior results to the beginning of the history of G40
If you want to see 2024 results in the new rankings board, you can look at “games finished last year” to see how many games a player finished last year.
Very powerful, in the results tab you can simply enter a player’s name or partial name in the colored box at the top, and it will automatically filter that players results, all of them since 2012, and details on who they played, what side they took, wins and losses, and bidding.
If you have any follow up questions, please don’t hesitate
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The link to the new spreadsheet is towards the top of the 2025 league rules, the first pinned thread in league play. I think that might be what you’re asking
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