sorry about not using the correct Marti. My brain is too full today, will try tomorrow.
Merry Christmas!
A lot of rule questions for an “easy” game.
I will ask Martin. He has the orginal rules in german.
And I am not sure how we play this. But I think we played without sneak attack from subs.
My sub will fight.
Sounds great, asking Martin.
I’m quite sure Triple A was wrong to do that, but didn’t matter in this case.
Let’s see if I can hit anything in round 2!
@elche said in Elche(x) v Gamerman01 Classic no tech Russia restricted:
A lot of rule questions for an “easy” game.
Exactly!
Then in round 2 when I have the opportunity to withdraw subs, of course Triple A thinks you withdraw all subs or none.
This is incorrect also. The “classified” rules clarifications say you can withdraw any number of subs each round, and those subs can withdraw to a different sea zone each round if desired, though the attacker would have to withdraw to a sea zone a unit came from.
Doesn’t matter, my subs are staying to hunt the battleship of course, but I am telling you for your benefit in the future.
If you are not familiar with these rules clarifications (I believe at the time I bought my game at Toys R Us in 1989 this 2 page rules clarifications was included in the box!
A horrible round 1 and then a perfect round 2 and 3, the battle ends almost as expected? A&A at its finest.
And then I KNEW the bomber would go down over Hawaii. Well, I gotta be happy I didn’t come up empty.
The US has the least value of material on the board!
Of course, I believe your rules.
I think it will not happen often with the subs but makes sense.
The USA lose the Pacific fleet and now the Med fleet.
But USA helps Russia and UK because Japan needs time and money to do so.
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 2 armour and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
3 fighters moved from East Europe to Central Mediteranean Sea Zone
2 armour moved from Germany to West Europe
1 infantry moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 fighter moved from East Europe to Ukraine S.S.R.
1 armour moved from Germany to West Europe
4 infantry moved from Germany to West Europe
1 infantry moved from Germany to West Europe
Combat - Germans
Battle in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone
Germans attack with 3 fighters
Americans defend with 2 submarines and 1 transport
Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 transport in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
2 submarines owned by the Americans and 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone
Germans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
Casualties for Americans: 2 submarines and 1 transport
Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in West Europe
Germans attack with 3 armour and 5 infantry
British defend with 4 infantry
Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 5 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2,33 expected hits
British roll dice for 4 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in West Europe
4 infantry owned by the British lost in West Europe
Germans win, taking West Europe from British with 3 armour and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
Casualties for British: 4 infantry
Non Combat Move - Germans
3 fighters moved from Central Mediteranean Sea Zone to East Europe
1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Europe
1 infantry moved from South Europe to East Europe
1 aaGun moved from South Europe to West Europe
1 infantry moved from Germany to West Europe
Place Units - Germans
2 armour and 7 infantry placed in Germany
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0,17
Russians regular : -0,33
Germans regular : 3,50
British regular : 0,67
I was a little bit to fast with my move.
I forget my inf in Kenya.
If okay please edit to SA.
You get 1 hit in West US Seazone. OOL please and I will attack again if possible, did your sub retreat ?
jap-ool-6.tsvg
Thank you for SA.
Lose sub
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 2 armour, 1 bomber and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Japanese
1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Russia
1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Evenki National Okrug
1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug
1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Novosibirsk
1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk
1 armour moved from Manchuria to Sinkiang
Japanese take Sinkiang from Americans
2 fighters moved from Red Sea Zone to Anglo Sudan Egypt
1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to West US Sea Zone
Combat - Japanese
Strategic bombing raid in Russia
Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 1 and costs: 1 PU.
Bombing raid costs 1 PU
Battle in Evenki National Okrug
Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenki National Okrug, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Evenki National Okrug
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Evenki National Okrug
Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Novosibirsk
Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk
Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Anglo Sudan Egypt
Japanese attack with 2 fighters
Americans defend with 1 armour
Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 armour in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 armour owned by the Americans lost in Anglo Sudan Egypt
Japanese win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
Casualties for Americans: 1 armour
Battle in West US Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 fighter
Americans defend with 1 submarine and 2 transports
Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in West US Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 2 transports in West US Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in West US Sea Zone
1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in West US Sea Zone
Americans win with 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
Non Combat Move - Japanese
1 fighter moved from Evenki National Okrug to Yakut S.S.R.
1 aaGun moved from Manchuria to Kwangtung
1 aaGun moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Manchuria
1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.
2 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria
1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to French Indo China
1 armour moved from Manchuria to French Indo China
2 battleships, 2 carriers and 2 transports moved from Red Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to French Indo China Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Manchuria
1 submarine moved from North Australia Sea Zone to Hawaii Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Russia to Manchuria
Place Units - Japanese
1 armour and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Manchuria
1 bomber and 1 infantry placed in Japan
Turn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0,67
Japanese regular : 2,17
Russians regular : 1,33
British regular : -0,33
Game History
Round: 7
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 3 armour and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
2 armour and 6 infantry moved from Germany to West Europe
Combat - Germans
Battle in West Europe
Germans attack with 2 armour and 6 infantry
British defend with 1 aaGun and 4 infantry
Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 6 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2,00 expected hits
British roll dice for 4 infantry in West Europe, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in West Europe
3 infantry owned by the British lost in West Europe
Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 5 infantry in West Europe, round 3 : 1/7 hits, 1,83 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 infantry in West Europe, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the British lost in West Europe
Germans win, taking West Europe from British with 2 armour and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for British: 4 infantry
Non Combat Move - Germans
1 infantry moved from South Africa to Kenya-Rhodesia
1 infantry moved from Germany to East Europe
Place Units - Germans
3 armour and 6 infantry placed in Germany
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0,17
British regular : -0,67
Hello my friend.
with the pretty nice Name - Fighter. I did not forget our rule question but Martin is very busy and we will do a phone call at Eastern about the rules. I will know this before I start a new classic game.
Sorry for delay, i had a teeth operation and could not do anything the last days.
Game History
Round: 7
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 2 armour, 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Japanese
4 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R.
1 bomber moved from Manchuria to Russia
1 submarine moved from Hawaii Sea Zone to Mexico Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Japan to Yakut S.S.R.
1 armour and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Red Sea Zone to Syria Jordan
Japanese take Syria Jordan from British
1 infantry moved from Red Sea Zone to Persia
Japanese take Persia from British
1 armour and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to India
2 fighters moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to India
2 armour moved from Manchuria to Sinkiang
1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang
Combat - Japanese
Strategic bombing raid in Russia
Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
1 bomber owned by the Japanese killed by AA in Russia
Bombing raid costs 0 PUs
Battle in Mexico Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 submarine
Americans defend with 1 transport
Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in Mexico Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 transport in Mexico Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in Mexico Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 transport in Mexico Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in Mexico Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 transport owned by the Americans lost in Mexico Sea Zone
Japanese win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
Battle in Yakut S.S.R.
Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 4 infantry
Russians defend with 1 armour
Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 4 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,33 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R.
1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R.
Japanese win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
Battle in Sinkiang
Japanese attack with 2 armour and 1 fighter
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 2 armour and 1 fighter in Sinkiang, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Sinkiang, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Sinkiang
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Sinkiang
Japanese win, taking Sinkiang from Americans with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in India
Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in India, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 infantry in India, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in India, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 infantry in India, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in India
Japanese win, taking India from British with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Japanese
1 carrier moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone
2 battleships moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from India to Red Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China
1 aaGun moved from Kwangtung to French Indo China
1 fighter moved from Sinkiang to French Indo China Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Yakut S.S.R. to French Indo China
Place Units - Japanese
2 armour and 1 infantry placed in French Indo China
3 infantry placed in Manchuria
1 fighter placed in Japan
Turn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0,33
Japanese regular : -2,17
Russians regular : 0,67
British regular : -0,67
Russians AA : 0,83