L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis)

MrRoboto

Now since apparently the game rolled that combat, this is what we should go with.

That means I only scored 1 hit with you defending with 3 hits.
I’ll retreat then. See file attached.

MrRoboto

Just had it during my game with Simon…

MrRoboto

Ooooh, that’s interesting.
I now have this:

I have never seen this before haha. Maybe because it took me a while to post the picture here and I let TripleA open for a while.

gamerman01

@MrRoboto said in L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis):

Now since apparently the game rolled that combat, this is what we should go with.

That means I only scored 1 hit with you defending with 3 hits.
I’ll retreat then. See file attached.

I’m not sure what happened. I did get the e-mail with 5,5,4,3 6 minutes before the one that is in game, in the save file.

The rolls in MARTI have been out of order, though, too. And last night the MARTI connection froze on my last die roll of a turn against elche.

If they are out of order, you definitely scored 1 hit, but could possibly be a 2nd hit, if that 4 was for the bomber.

I am happy with my defense roll.
I would be very happy if I only took 1 hit (and I probably would have taken a plane off instead of the destroyer if you asked me a casualty having scored only 1 hit).

So if you honorably go with a roll that looks like 1 hit, I would ask that you replace a fighter with the destroyer especially to disrupt the NO.

However, as I said I can’t be sure that first roll didn’t actually score 2 hits. I offer you 3 options:

Stay with only 1 Italian hit and let me change my casualty to lose a plane instead of the destroyer
I will split it with you and give you 2 hits against the Americans and you leave a destroyer in the water
Re-roll the Italian attack, with a maximum of 3 hits and a minimum of 1 hit. Because your better (albeit, later) roll was 3 hits, and the first MARTI e-mail was for at least 1 hit, could have been 2.
If you score 3 hits, I would have lost the destroyer for sure.

I don’t know what happened, but I trust you a lot. That’s why I don’t like option #1.
Please consider, and I hope you choose #2 or #3 or maybe you have an option 4 I didn’t think of - thanks man!!! But especially thanks for not destroying all my stuff! :flushed:

gamerman01

There is another question. With all your experience you might know what this means.

I am able to open your save file in local, but NOT PBEM.

MrRoboto

Hm, probably because I finalized the turn in Local mode because I didn’t want to confuse us by rolling again.

I actually did #1 earlier, but I’ll gladly take your offer and reroll the attack!

Just to not confuse us any more, I will roll it here on the forums!

Attacker: 3 fighter, 1 bomber

[dice 3d6<=3]
[dice 1d6<=4]

dicebot

3d6<=3: 5, 3, 4; Hits: 1
1d6<=4: 4; Hits: 1

gamerman01

I’m glad you took the dice rolling solution, and TWO is a great compromise!!! Thanks man!!

gamerman01

Leave the destroyer please (also part of the compromise)

gamerman01

And deduct 5 from the grubby Italians

MrRoboto

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Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians repair damage of 5x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 14 PUs; 
        Italians buy 1 destroyer and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        2 fighters moved from Southern France to 92 Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in 92 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 bomber and 3 fighters
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Italians win with 1 bomber and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        3 fighters could not land in 92 Sea Zone and were removed
        1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        2 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to France

    Place Units - Italians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Gibraltar: 2 fighters
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 92 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 destroyer placed in 95 Sea Zone
        2 infantry placed in Ukraine

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,5,5
        Italians collect 12 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 12 PUs

gamerman01

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MrRoboto

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Game History

Round: 10

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        5 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                2 infantry owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 artillery
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                1 artillery owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium
            Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery
        Battle in Western Ukraine
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
            Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Belarus
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Belarus, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Belarus, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
            Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        Battle in Rostov
            Germans attack with 9 artilleries and 15 infantry
            Russians defend with 2 aaGuns and 8 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 9 artilleries and 15 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 8/24 hits, 7,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 aaGuns and 8 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                8 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                2 aaGuns owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
            Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 9 artilleries and 14 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns and 8 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 armour, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Poland
        1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to France
        2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Western Germany
        1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine

    Place Units - Germans
        2 submarines placed in 112 Sea Zone
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod
        3 infantry placed in France
        3 infantry placed in Southern France
        2 fighters placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,2,4
        Germans collect 50 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 50 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 0,00
Germans regular : -1,83
British regular : 1,00

Ok Belarus is… ugh.

And Rostov… I didn’t even know that could happen. I though I can retreat, but apparently when there is only AAA left, I can’t?

gamerman01

@MrRoboto said in L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis):

And Rostov… I didn’t even know that could happen. I though I can retreat, but apparently when there is only AAA left, I can’t?

Exactly, I think I tried to explain that before when I said you were “playing with fire”. Now it looks like you got too many hits, but I wonder why you took infantry off (which is exactly what I would have done) and that is a big bummer I only scored 1 hit. (Don’t have time right now to look at the move)

So you scored 8 and without looking at the map, I’m sure I would take 8 infantry and suck you in.

You can’t retreat from transports or AAA.

gamerman01

If that doesn’t make sense, let me know. I’ll look at the map later.

Now you have another gun in your arsenal, knowing about the AAA trick.

gamerman01

@gamerman01 said in L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis):

You are playing with fire

gamerman01

@MrRoboto said in L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis):

what do you mean?

gamerman01

@gamerman01 said in L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis):

I mean you risked a 60% chance that your strafing army would have won and been stuck in Rostov to be pummelled

gamerman01

@gamerman01 said in L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis):

I shouldn’t say anything because you’d probably get burned next time, but I don’t want you to keep strafing my stack with higher odds and getting lucky :face_with_head_bandage:

gamerman01

Now I need to look at the map and your turn.

I saw a big post or two by you in the past that I never saw. So I might have answered if I’d have seen them.

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