pacifiersboard (X) -vs- lebowsky (L +44) OOB (UHD)

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
        1 infantry moved from Amur to Korea
              Russians take Korea from Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
              Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
              Russians take Eastern Poland from Italians

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Baltic States
            Russians attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend; Italians defend with 1 armour
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Baltic States
            Russians win, taking Baltic States from Italians with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
        Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
        2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        6 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Russia
        1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns and 10 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
        6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur

    Place Units - Russians
        1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Russia
        2 infantry placed in Ukraine

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2
        Russians collect 38 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 38 PUs
        Trigger Russians BM Archangel Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 40 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.50
Russians regular : 0.00

Savegame

@pacifiersboard

hmm … I’ve not seen this. Your theory is possible. Can you post a save and what versions of the map, as well as triplea, you are using ?

I guess you will need to edit for now and be on the lookout for further errors.

@pacifiersboard

I guess you have the save already posted :)

@pacifiersboard
I think the issue is because G and Russia aren’t at war. So my guess is triplea is handling it correctly from a engine standpoint. I forget the specifics of the Rule. I think maybe G isn’t allowed into Original Soviet TTys unless at war with them.

Even if those TTys are occupied by one of their Allies. But I’m not certain on that.

I wasnt sure how it works actually, and didnt have time to check, posted the turn in a hurry.

Redo what you must and I do the turn again dont worry, the combats were in those zones.

@pacifiersboard said in pacifiersboard (X) -vs- lebowsky (L +44) OOB (UHD):

@lebowsky

yeah. I just realised that this time my aaa will shoot unlike before. Do you still want to attack the way you did?

Not sure, just redo the turn, will be easier

But you must declare to russia to move inside russian territory right? so the declare has to be on german turn. Ive always played like that, OOB or BM, this is the first time i see this happening.

So either you dont move or lose 5 IPC from the NO in my opinion

Nevermind, doing the turn like that. I read this post:

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/31255/russia-question/51?page=3

I think OOB doesnt clarify enough, though BM does.

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Amur to Korea
              Russians take Korea from Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
              Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese

    Combat - Russians
        Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Russia
        6 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
        3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
        2 aaGuns and 10 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
        6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur

    Place Units - Russians
        1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Russia
        2 infantry placed in Volgograd

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2
        Russians collect 36 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 36 PUs
        Trigger Russians BM Archangel Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 38 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
        Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Amur to Korea
              Russians take Korea from Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
              Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese

    Combat - Russians
        Germans scrambles 1 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 113 Sea Zone
        Battle in 113 Sea Zone
            Russians attack with 1 cruiser
            Germans defend with 1 fighter and 1 transport
                Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 transport in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
            Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser
        Moving scrambled unit from 113 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Western Germany
        Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Russia
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
        2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns and 10 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
        6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
        2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 19 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk

    Place Units - Russians
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Volgograd
        10 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1
        Russians collect 36 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 36 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Smolensk: 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bryansk: 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.33
Russians regular : -0.50

Savegame