Global 1940 and 1943 Expansion for use with TripleA

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @The-Captain so I haven’t figured out how todo this yet but it does illustrate what triplea can do :)

    Screenshot from 2023-04-11 15-54-49.png

    We can put other boxes in Antarctica if needed :)

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @The-Captain one thing idk if it can do is have those boxes mobile tho. Which, obviously, important.

    I guess I might need to go back to school and learn java code lol

    Do you guys have any java coders in your group ?


  • @barnee

    What happened to that map!?


  • @barnee

    It looks great.

    I’m not sure if any of our Veteran Members remember what they learned about Java…back in the good old days

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    Thanks to @Black_Elk we have added Boxes for Armies, Corps and Army Groups. We also added the Timetable and some Landmine Borders.

    @VictoryFirst made some cool Tokens for them. The Map is discussed in detail here https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39844/global-40-expansion-boxes/142

    Here are a few shots from the 1943 setup
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    Screenshot from 2023-05-24 11-15-59.png


  • @barnee

    Nice map, I love the North Pole inclusion.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    The latest triplea prerelease has fixed a lot of issues. The biggest one, imo, is you can check History and the Objectives Tab won’t disappear. :)

    Big Thanks to asvitkine for fixing it. :+1:

    Can’t overproduce and wipe out your entire Purchase, another Biggie :)

    Screenshot from 2023-08-22 01-07-40.png
    A lot of other Cool Beans too:)

    DL here https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.6.14477

  • 2024 2023 '22 '21

    The map looks awesome - I’m very impressed about the boxes for Armies and Army Groups.

    Great work :muscle:

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    Thanks to jdimeo and GenerationKill who made this Cool WWI game https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/36205/over-the-top?_=1692852528443

    We’ll be using the Kills image for “Naval Mines”

    Harbor-Defenses.png

    I’m going to recolor the roundel so they work similar to “Land Mines”


  • @barnee

    But that… but that’s a World War 1 flag!!!

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    Naval Mines are almost done. :) Here’s a few shots showing how they work.
    Screenshot from 2023-09-03 08-49-19.png

    There are 3 Naval Mines for Purchase.
    NavalMine which is 1 NM and cost 1 PU
    NavalMine.png

    NavalMine2 which designates 2 NMs and cost 2 PUs
    NavalMine2.png

    and NM3 which designates 3 NMs and cost 3 PUs
    NavalMine3.png

    Here they are in the Purchase screen Far Right
    Screenshot from 2023-09-03 07-44-57.png

    The reason there are 3 types of NMs, is that triplea defaults to loading non Transports with transport ability first. Which can be kind of annoying. Idk how or if one can change that.

    Anyway, each NM has a transport cost of 1 and the Escorts have a transport capacity of 1. So they can only load NMs. Triplea will still ask if you want to load on the Trprt but will default to the Escort.
    JPN DDs are only other Unit that has trprt ability and I haven’t checked to see what it defaults to yet. So it’s Player Enforced to Only load them on Escorts.

    In this shot, we have 2 NM3s in Germany, which is the only place they can be built. We also have an Escort and a Escort Convoy in SZ 113.
    Screenshot from 2023-09-03 07-53-00.png

    NMs can move 1 in NCM only in order to load on the Escorts. Once again, Player Enforced not to move them any other way.
    We load both NM3s on the Escort and EscortConvoy.

    It asks us which Transport Vessel we want to load on with it defaulting to the Escort. If you already know that you are going to lay the 3 NMs from the EscCnvy first, then switch and load it first. Otherwise when you go to delete the NMs and EscortConvoy, it will make you delete the first loaded trprt vessel first, which would be the ESC
    Screenshot from 2023-09-03 08-13-12.png

    Here they are fully loaded.
    Screenshot from 2023-09-03 08-13-57.png

    Now the Fleet moves to 112 SZ
    Screenshot from 2023-09-03 08-16-49.png

    The EscortConvoy is going to lay 3 NMs against 110 SZ and the Escort is going to keep it’s NMs on board.
    Orange is used to designate Southwest direction, so AFTER NCM, we Edit 3 Orange Changer NMs to 112 SZ.
    Screenshot from 2023-09-03 08-20-38.png

    Screenshot from 2023-09-03 08-24-56.png

    The ONLY way to remove the NMs that were on the EscortConvoy is to remove it along with it’s cargo. You then have to Edit the EscCnvy back in.
    And to make matters worse, since triplea defaults to the Escort as the first one loaded, you have to delete it and it’s cargo before it allows you to delete the Convoy. That’s why you want to load the Convoy first as stated above.
    Pita right ? Heh heh not too bad when you get used to it :)
    Screenshot from 2023-09-03 08-29-35.png

    So now we have 3 Orange NMs defending against 110 SZ with 3 NMs still loaded on the Escort.

    If needed, you can document in the Comment Log.
    Screenshot from 2023-09-03 08-33-35.png

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    I have a few other things todo before the next update. Hopefully I can get it out sooner than later :)

    Edit 11-20-24
    SZ 112 Defending @ SZ 110 is now SZ specific and actually has been for a while :)

    Screenshot from 2024-11-20 12-15-31.png


  • @barnee

    :+1:

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    Naval Mines are done. Yay lol and more Good news too :)

    I revisited the Take Over of Italy and was just going to add it for 1940 only, but in the process of doing so, I found out why 1943 wasn’t working. A single trigger had been accidentally deleted uggh :)

    Anyway it’s working now too and i even made a minor improvement to it. :)

    Since I’m on a bit of a roll, I’m gonna take a crack at D-Day. Pretty sure I can have all US units in the D-Day Box auto change ownership to UK control.

    Anyway, it’ll be a bit yet before we update :) Confidence is High tho :)


  • @barnee

    :+1: :+1:

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    We’re going to switch to how Boxes work and explain how “Take Over of Italy” and “D-Day” work in the future.

    Updated 11-20-24 at Bottom of Post

    Using the Boxes will take some getting used to, but like anything, it’ll get easier the more you use them :)

    In this example, we have Army Group North in Belarus, which consists of 3rd Waffen, 2nd Panzer, 6 Infantry, 2 Artillery and 2 Panzer Grenadiers. 2nd Panzer is “Active”. Meaning it gets it’s bonus shots.

    There are also 2 Waffen Paras present. The minefields have already been crossed and will not play a part in the battle.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 19-47-41.png

    NOTE
    You MUST move the Defender in Edit with “Perform Move or Other Actions” before the Attacker or the Defender will not defend correctly.

    At the start of russia’s Combat Move, we move AG North to belarus.
    Click on Edit Mode “Perform Move or Other Actions” . Use “Ctrl e” or click on “Game” top left.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 20-21-48.png

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 20-24-41.png

    Now we move AG North.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 20-28-39.png

    2nd Panzer and 3rd Waffen need to move as well.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 20-30-18.png

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 20-31-27.png

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    Germany has All of it’s defending units in belarus, so now we move russia’s.

    They’re going to send 1st AG and 3rd Corps from Bryansk, along with 1st Tank from moscow.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 20-40-46.png

    I’m not certain on this point, but I believe I asked @The-Captain previously, that the AG must have one of it’s Corps/Armies “Active” to be an AG, so we will deactivate 1st Tank in this instance.

    We click on Edit again so it will deactivate the moving and replace “Tank_General3” with “Tank_General” so they won’t get the bonus.

    Now we click on "Perform Move … " again and move the rest of the godless communists from there Boxes to belarus.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 20-50-53.png

    We’ll pause before the Battle as i don’t wanna get timed out :)

    So, if you are using the “2.6” prerelease, you will notice at the bottom of screen the units in the territory that the cursor is on are listed.
    Unfortunately, our Ginormous battle doesn’t show them all. I guess it depends on monitor size :)

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 21-08-30.png

    All right. Time for battle :)

    So Big battles like these require a lot of attention. Especially with the Armies and Corps. Triplea will show the AG/Corps/Armies as potential hits.

    Obviously don’t select them. That may be a reason not to send them into the battle, but I like the information purpose it provides.

    A matter of personal preference.

    Almost forgot, gonna send 10 bullet stoppers for the commies too. It’s just a learning tool not a strategic guide :) The Captain has those here https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/37458/strategy-guide-global-1940

    Hmm … somewhat disappointing for russia.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 21-21-43.png

    So we can’t take any of the Tokens as hits, so we deselect those.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 21-23-44.png

    The AG is no longer functional, so we off it’s Flag and kill the Panzer General as well, so he won’t keep giving his bonus.

    Note
    You can add a PG/TG/ etc … if needed, after battle with edit, and switch it out for a different casualty.

    Jerry isn’t gonna have to worry about that in this example lol

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 21-26-01.png

    They still got the Badass 5 hittin Waffen Panzer though lol

    Pretty solid comeback. His 4 hitters kinda sucked but those 2 boys were all over it :)

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 21-33-11.png

    This is where it requires you to be on it. I can’t remember for sure, but I think ivan had 10 Inf in his AG.
    Sadly, we can’t access History while in Battle :(

    So, i dusted 10 Inf and the AG. Rather keep the Tanks I’m thinking.

    NOTE
    The AG is Disbanded but the Active component of it, Commisar 3, retains his bonus shots, as he still has all of his dudes.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 21-36-42.png

    Another solid strike by ivan and Jerry is toast. Note we have to whack the Tokens and will still need one more rd to finish him.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 21-42-00.png

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 21-42-00.png

    Not too bad, got the rest of the Inf anyway.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 21-44-54.png

    Need to B double E double RUN back in a bit :)

    So machine froze and had to rerun battle. Jerry got his ass kicked Big time this go. So any discrepancies from the previous example are due to that :)

    Non Combat Move time. 1st Tank remained intact and moves back to his Box.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 22-47-17.png

    1st, 2nd and 3rd Corps Reform with all Tank units and move to there Boxes.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 22-49-25.png

    1st AG Reforms with 1st Tank and 1st Corps, as well as 5 Inf from Bryansk and 5 from Smolensk.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 22-49-25.png

    1st Tank is now Active in the AG, so we want to deactivate the commiesar in 3rd Corps. We already moved units to the 3rd Corps Box, so it won’t let us.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 22-54-42.png

    You must change Units Before moving any of them or it won’t let you.

    In this case, we just say F it, and edit the change in the next phase.

    Screenshot from 2023-09-19 22-59-22.png

    Anyway, should be helpful. Victory and I have only played one game with Boxes and we’re on rd 4 or 5 I think, so still in the testing phase :)

    Hmm … looks like I need to change the Smolensk place.
    No biggie, will do :)

    Edit
    11-20-24

    So thanks to @VictoryFirst 's astuteness, we now fight large battles in edit mode.

    This isn’t nearly problematic as it looks, as you generally need to change what triplea picks as casualties in a big battle anyway.

    One of the cool things that we’ve discovered, is that the AG and Army/Corps tokens stay in their box. We just move the units. And playing in edit allows us to take the AG flag as an additional casualty, since triplea would give it a hitpoint otherwise.

    The big thing to remember, besides being deliberate and double checking the casualties taken, just as you would in a Face to Face game :) is to kill off any bonus units first.

    So once the AG is no longer active, we take it as an additional hit. When a Panzer Army or Corps will no longer be active, we need to take the PG and Commisar as hits first, so they don’t continue to give their bonus.

    After the battle, you can edit them back in if needed.

    Try and move as many units as you can in edit during NCM, especially if you are going to reform a AG or Army/Corps at End Turn.
    It will save you some edit remove and place time.

    NOTE
    During Combat Move, Some Territories will be incorrectly conquered. While still in edit, just switch back to the proper owner.
    This usually happens with Poland and sometimes Soviet Far East and China.

    While to read this it may seem complicated, after a few games it becomes quite natural. Victory and @Panzerstahl-Helm and myself find it to play quite smoothly. :)

    Screenshot from 2024-11-20 21-12-12.png


  • @barnee

    This seems to be more or less the same way as we do it on the game board.

    All units in each Army, Army Corps and Army Group are placed at the Army Boards next to the game board.

    And it needs a lot of attention, when for example two Army Groups etc. are fighting against eachother.

    And - as in TripleA - we use the Combat Board to display all units during the Combat phase.

    IMG_6704.JPG IMG_6711.JPG


  • @The-Captain :grin:

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @barnee that’s a lot of Panzers :)

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  • @barnee

    Seems complicated. Very nice though!

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