@The-Captain You’re absolutely right, but as the Russian player I’ve been glad to see those factories bombed out. Germany has moved the Southern Italy, Berlin, and Paris factories underground as they consider those the main factories they’ll be producing from. The Allies learned this the hard way too the India Industrial Complex took a lot of bombing damage. It’s kind of late but UK may finally put that factory underground.
[Global 1940] Escort Carriers
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As expected, a cheaper means of providing air cover.
Escort Carriers
Cost: 10
Attack: 0
Defense: 1
Move: 2
Unit Characteristics
Escort Carriers represent smaller classes of aircraft carriers, often used in convoy defense. Except the characteristics above and where mentioned below, they are treated as aircraft carriers for all other purposes, including Carry Aircraft and Air Defense.
Non-Capital Ship: Escort carriers are destroyed by a single hit.
Limited Air Capacity: Escort carriers may only carry a single air unit. -
This should cost half of a regular AC.
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yea I got em at 9 bucks with the big dogs being 16. That’s with two hit in the Global game. Otherwise I’m spending an extra 6 for full on Fleet carrier.
Smaller players like Canada, Italy and sometimes ANZAC, like em. They’re good for sub hunting. Especially with Tacs having a targeted sub shot too. That’s with subs being able to submerge against any unit after one shot.
A couple DDs, tac and Escort makes for a nice little group
Throw in a two shot Cruiser, and well, it can get tough being a sub Captain : )
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Or are you thinking 1 hit 14 dollar Carrier ? What are you comparing exactly? For hits and attack, defense.
Good idea, but I tried em at 10 in the Global game and always just went to 16 for full 2 hit carrier.
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I figured 8 was too low, given than being able to be in two locations is worth >0. Perhaps 9?
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I would make the escort carriers 7 IPC, but with only 1 movement as they only travelled at 19 knots, not 33 knots like the big fleet carriers.
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@magnum said in [Global 1940] Escort Carriers:
I would make the escort carriers 7 IPC, but with only 1 movement as they only travelled at 19 knots, not 33 knots like the big fleet carriers.
That’s a great idea!
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@magnum said in [Global 1940] Escort Carriers:
I would make the escort carriers 7 IPC, but with only 1 movement as they only travelled at 19 knots, not 33 knots like the big fleet carriers.
You should probably have subs only move 1 as well then. Might need to drop em to 4 or 5 bucks.
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@barnee said in [Global 1940] Escort Carriers:
@magnum said in [Global 1940] Escort Carriers:
I would make the escort carriers 7 IPC, but with only 1 movement as they only travelled at 19 knots, not 33 knots like the big fleet carriers.
You should probably have subs only move 1 as well then. Might need to drop em to 4 or 5 bucks.
Can’t really make them move 1. Some could go 30 mph or what knots it is.
I think u need to leave escort carriers move 2.
There were to many of them and it’s one of those things in game where it’s more of play then historic. If 1 move then add to setups a possibility. -
@gen-manstein 30 mph sub in WWII ? Hadn’t heard of that. Must’ve been a late war model I’m guessing.
Yea I agree with playability keeping them at M2. Obviously doesn’t mean you couldn’t have em at M1 but transports didn’t haul ass either. You’d have to do some tweaking for sure -
https://uboat.net/media/allies/warships/br/ss_hms_thorn.jpgWT$. Dam. UK subs kinda sucked.
Looks like a whale. No wonder it couldn’t go faster than 12 mph. Is this when the whale wars started with Japan ?
Japan had fastest subs early.
Japan I-15 27 mph 16000 m. 1940
Italy Archirede 20 mph. 12000 m. 1939
Russia. K class 26 mph. 16000 m. 1939
U boat u-505. 21 mph 16000 m 1941
US. Drum SS 228. 24 mph. 13000 m. 1941
UK T class. 12mph. 10000 m. 1939
Seems UK subs mostly used in Med. based on travel so far.So not quite 30 mph. Think another Japan sub was 29. Anyway this is enough for me to keep them M2. Except maybe UK. Can see why there’s not hardly any in Atlantic.
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@gen-manstein wow never realized that. Thought they could only do like 4 knots submerged and less than 20 surfaced on average. At any rate good info
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@barnee said in [Global 1940] Escort Carriers:
@gen-manstein wow never realized that. Thought they could only do like 4 knots submerged and less than 20 surfaced on average. At any rate good info
Yes they do go way slower submerged.
That be something to see. EC, Subs and Trannys move 1 only. What’s the US gonna do. Slow them down -
@gen-manstein yea i’d almost go at it the other way and make the CAs and fast BBs go 3. But that will create it’s own issues. Besides 19 knots is over 20 mph anyway
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