I have moved the follow up discussion about Loading Transports in Hostile Seazones in the Classic Editon to the Classic-Category:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35796/loading-transports-in-hostile-seazones
Global 1940 Rule Question re: scrambling and amphibious assaults
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An interesting rules situation arose in a recent game, and I’m interested in the insight of the community.
American warships in Adriatic Sea (SZ ), including aircraft carrier with 2 British fighters. 2 British transports also in the same SZ, but no British warships. Italian and German fighters in Southern Italy (which is adjacent to SZ ) with a functioning airbase. On the British turn, British transports unload ground forces into German-controlled Greece to attach German land units there.
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Can the planes in Southern Italy scramble Into SZ to try and prevent the amphibious landing, even though no combat is occurring in the SZ? I believe the answer is ‘yes’.
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What ships participate in the battle in the SZ initiated by the scramble? The American warships and the British planes or just the British planes? It is Britain’s turn and it is the attacker, so the American warships would not bombard or participate in the amphibious assault, but do they “attach” against the scrambling fighters? The scambling fighters would roll using their defensive values.
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If just the British fighters participate in the scambling battle and lose, with German or Italian fighters still present, would the British transports be destroyed? Or does the presence of the Amercian warships, though they didn’t participate in the scramble battle “protect” the British transports and allow them to continue to make their amphibious landing?
Thanks very much for any thoughts anyone has.
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#1.
Yes, the planes from Southern Italy can scramble to that seazone. as by the rules
"They can also be scrambled to resist amphibious
assaults from adjacent sea zones, whether or not the
territory being assaulted is the territory containing the
air base. They may defend against the enemy ships
conducting the amphibious assault even if friendly ships
are not present. "The British land units may not be unloaded before the seazone has been cleared of the enemy (scrambling) units.
#2.
As friendly powers never fight together when attacking, only the British units participate in the sea battle. Scrambling is a defensive move, so refer to the scrambling planes’ defense values and abilities when resolving combat.#3.
The American units only watch the scenery, as friendly powers never attack together. As Britain in your scenario is the attacker, the British transports may retreat, if possible.Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.
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Thanks very much, Panther. Sounds like a mixed-power armada will be necessary to protect the transports from scambles.
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@Panther said in Global 1940 Rule Question re: scrambling and amphibious assaults:
#3.
The American units only watch the scenery, as friendly powers never attack together. As Britain in your scenario is the attacker, the British transports may retreat, if possible.In this scenario the transports were already in the SZ so they would not be allowed a retreat. However, if they left the SZ and came back in then they could retreat.
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@AndrewAAGamer said in Global 1940 Rule Question re: scrambling and amphibious assaults:
@Panther said in Global 1940 Rule Question re: scrambling and amphibious assaults:
#3.
The American units only watch the scenery, as friendly powers never attack together. As Britain in your scenario is the attacker, the British transports may retreat, if possible.In this scenario the transports were already in the SZ so they would not be allowed a retreat. However, if they left the SZ and came back in then they could retreat.
Right, that is the way that makes a retreat “possible”.
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