L20 PTV-first game! Surfer(L) vs. AndrewAAGamer(X)

surfer

TripleA Move Summary: British round 1

TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Combat Move - British
        2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Scotland to 114 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 98 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 100 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 78 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
        1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
        1 cruiser moved from 100 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 78 Sea Zone to Ethiopia

    Combat - British

Savegame

surfer

Sorry, got interrupted earlier and didn’t get back to this.
Scramble ftr from CV? (This will take some getting used to…)

surfer

@AndrewAAGamer Yea. Kinda got on tilt when the first 4 rounds only hit once-an inf…Ftr never hit once in 7 rounds! I guess no one trained my Flying Tiger how to shoot.

trulpen

@surfer said in L20 PTV-first game! Surfer(L) vs. AndrewAAGamer(X):

Agreed. This is a very different game. I wonder if I was overly ambitious/hasty/<insert adjective> to put this game in the league without trying it first. I feel we should get to try some moves so we can see the dynamic before we try to say one play is better than another.

What is your preference?

I and @aequitas-et-veritas did the same. Don’t think it’s too bad, but a serious challenge. Believe we hold the premier league game. ;)

It’s a crazy game. Very different from the original map. Lots of new angles.

trulpen

@surfer said in L20 PTV-first game! Surfer(L) vs. AndrewAAGamer(X):

Well, some things shouldn’t change. I can’t see an advantage in scrambling here when the best I can hope for is just a trade in air.

No scramble.

Sorry for dipping in, but this situation is over, so don’t think there’s any impact with a comment.

G obviously will try and strafe z114, so a scramble there would be rather safe. The only reason not to scramble from Scotland is hoping for good dice for G so that the Bismarck gets stuck and can be easily sunk.

Correct me if I’m wrong. Haven’t looked how it played out yet, but will in a few secs.

trulpen

@AndrewAAGamer said in L20 PTV-first game! Surfer(L) vs. AndrewAAGamer(X):

Scramble SZ 110 or SZ 111?

Correction: z113 and z114.

trulpen

@surfer said in L20 PTV-first game! Surfer(L) vs. AndrewAAGamer(X):

@AndrewAAGamer Yea. Kinda got on tilt when the first 4 rounds only hit once-an inf…Ftr never hit once in 7 rounds! I guess no one trained my Flying Tiger how to shoot.

What do you expect from being abandoned in deep China? A bunch of drunkards behind the wheels…

surfer

@AndrewAAGamer Hold of on scramble. I just realized the CV scramble in the med sort of protects Algeria from an invasion and Gibraltar can hold through I1/G2. I’d like to redo this.

surfer

TripleA Move Summary: British round 1

TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Combat Move - British
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Scotland to 114 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone

Savegame

surfer

Same scramble choice. CVs were already fundamental parts of your fleet, but became even more important in this game.

surfer

@trulpen I guess G got “lucky”, maybe makes up for the C1 “attack”. As usual, what the dice gods give, they quickly take away.

AndrewAAGamer

@surfer said in L20 PTV-first game! Surfer(L) vs. AndrewAAGamer(X):

Same scramble choice. CVs were already fundamental parts of your fleet, but became even more important in this game.

Wow - I TOTALLY forgot about that new capability! This is really going to be tough to play.

Scramble fighter please…

surfer

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Combat Move - British
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Scotland to 114 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Germans scrambles 1 units out of 115 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in 114 Sea Zone
        Battle in 114 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber and 3 fighters
            Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
            1 submarine owned by the Germans Submerged
                British roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

British : 0.00

Savegame

surfer

@AndrewAAGamer Yep changes the game for sure. I hit 2x…OOL?

AndrewAAGamer

@surfer said in L20 PTV-first game! Surfer(L) vs. AndrewAAGamer(X):

@AndrewAAGamer Yep changes the game for sure. I hit 2x…OOL?

Keep the battleship

surfer

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 3 carriers; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter moved from Davao to Wake Island
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 marine moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 artillery moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 bomber moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to Eastern United States

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone
        2 carriers placed in 11 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 57 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        4 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
        1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Yunnan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 7 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 7 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 fighter owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -19
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 4 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai
        2 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai
        2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai
        3 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Tsinghai

    Place Units - Chinese
        4 infantry placed in Tsinghai

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 airfield, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Scotland to 114 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 114 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Germans scrambles 1 units out of 115 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in 114 Sea Zone
        Battle in 114 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber and 3 fighters
            Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
            1 submarine owned by the Germans Submerged
                British roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 fighter in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 114 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 114 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 114 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in 114 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
            Casualties for British: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship and 1 fighter
        Battle in 98 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 98 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 98 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 98 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 98 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 artillery moved from Egypt to 100 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia
              British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies
        1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        1 battleship moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 40 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Western India to Eastern India
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India
        1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India
        1 bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        1 fighter moved from 114 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire
              British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
        1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 100 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from 114 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec

    Place Units - British
        1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
        1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Eastern India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
        Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -1.00
British : -3.00
Italians : -1.00
Chinese : -3.83
Japanese : 0.33

Savegame

surfer

Well that turn was about as hard to decide as any I’ve done before. I haven’t lost Yunnan ever before. My fault, I was playing too close to the edge–I was focused on this possible new dynamic of developing an interior China force that would be a threat for awhile. Of course, I should have just overwhelmed it and lost the inf next round, but losing it now is critical in a way I hadn’t appreciated.

Also, I really didn’t want to leave the UK so open, but with the added 10 IPCs for Russia. SeaLion was always non-optimal, but I would guess not even really an option considering how large the Russians could become.

AndrewAAGamer

TripleA Move Summary: Italians round 1

TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
        1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland
              Italians take British Somaliland from British
        1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland

Savegame

AndrewAAGamer

@surfer said in L20 PTV-first game! Surfer(L) vs. AndrewAAGamer(X):

Also, I really didn’t want to leave the UK so open, but with the added 10 IPCs for Russia. SeaLion was always non-optimal, but I would guess not even really an option considering how large the Russians could become.

Yeah - this is the first time I have ever built a carrier on G1. However I think taking Moscow is going to be next to impossible so I am hunkering down to protect my sea lanes instead.

AndrewAAGamer

Scramble from CV in SZ 94 for SZ 95 battle?

L20 PTV-first game! Surfer(L) vs. AndrewAAGamer(X)

TripleA Move Summary: British round 1

TripleA Move Summary: British round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 1

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 1

TripleA Move Summary: Italians round 1

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