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L20 PTV-first game! Surfer(L) vs. AndrewAAGamer(X)
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First time for both. Interested to see how this plays!
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 1
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - GermansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@surfer
Thanks for setting this up! Need to look over the map first. May be a day or two before I go. -
Agreed. This is a very different game. I wonder if I was overly ambitious/hasty/<insert adjective> to put this game in the league without trying it first. I feel we should get to try some moves so we can see the dynamic before we try to say one play is better than another.
What is your preference?
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Since you already set it up as a League game I would prefer just leaving it that way. We both have no idea what to do so it is evenly fair and confusing. :)
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I looked at the map for about an hour last night. It is a totally different game. They built this to be a long drawn out fight for money versus objectives.
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All good! Yep, different game. I’m not even sure what R1 should look like and normally that is an easy turn…I don’t envy you the early Axis turns, who knows what rabbit holes exist out there… ;)
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@surfer
Well I guess here goes. No clue if this is right or wrong. -
TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 1
TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 120 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to 114 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France 3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Austria to France 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 fighter moved from Poland to Yugoslavia -
Scramble SZ 110 or SZ 111?
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Well, some things shouldn’t change. I can’t see an advantage in scrambling here when the best I can hope for is just a trade in air.
No scramble.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 120 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to 114 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France 3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Austria to France 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 fighter moved from Poland to Yugoslavia Combat - Germans Battle in 114 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 submarine owned by the Germans, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 114 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in 109 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 109 Sea Zone British win with 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in 113 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the French, 2 submarines owned by the Germans, 1 cruiser owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Casualties for French: 1 cruiser Battle in France Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 8 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 8 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 2 : 7/21 hits, 7.17 expected hits French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the French, 5 infantry owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the French lost in France Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 3 : 6/16 hits, 6.33 expected hits French roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 fighter in France, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the French, 1 fighter owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British, 1 armour owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32 Casualties for Germans: 7 infantry Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 4/15 hits, 4.50 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia 2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 9 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Romania Neutral_Allies win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 cruiser moved from 117 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France Place Units - Germans 1 carrier placed in 115 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 37 PUs; end with 56 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : 0.50 British : 1.50 French : 0.33 Neutral_Allies : -1.67 -
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 3 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha 3 infantry moved from Buryatia to Sakha 6 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Northern Belarus 1 artillery moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad 1 submarine moved from 130 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Leningrad 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 2 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northern Caucasus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Kursk 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine 1 fighter moved from Russia to Leningrad Place Units - Russians 1 infantry placed in Siberia 3 infantry placed in Leningrad 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine 1 infantry placed in Stalingrad Russians undo move 4. 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 factory_minor and 3 marines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Fukien to Kiangsi Japanese take Kiangsi from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar Japanese take Chahar from Chinese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Shansi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to Shansi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Shansi 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 artillery moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi Combat - Japanese Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 4 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry Battle in Shansi Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Shansi, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shansi Japanese win, taking Shansi from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shansi to Kiangsu 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria 3 infantry moved from Korea to Northern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Korea to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Formosa to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 carrier moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 34 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from Formosa to Kwangsi 2 carriers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to 37 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 21 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Hokkaido to Japan 1 infantry moved from Kyushu to Japan Place Units - Japanese 3 marines placed in Japan 1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 43 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 carriers; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Davao to Wake Island 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 marine moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 artillery moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 bomber moved from Central United States to Eastern United States 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Eastern United States Place Units - Americans 1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone 2 carriers placed in 11 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 57 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 4 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 7 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 7 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 fighter owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -19 Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 4 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai 3 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai 1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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cool game. will be following with interest
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Ouch! Dude, as Kenny Rogers sang, you gotta know when to hold them and when to fold them. You should of pulled back when you were down to 1 infantry. Losing your fighter is gonna hurt.
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@surfer
You do know you still need to do UK. Right?
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