Battleships attacking subs?

@Panther great! Thanks for clarifying!

@RYNO87 good day.
The attacking Sub can’t attack the defending Sub, if the defender decides to submerge. It is safe and alive.
Only a Destroyer prevents this.

@RYNO87 Sea units can never attack territories containing whatever defending units.

In other editions battleships and cruisers under special conditions can support amphibious assaults by shore bombardment, but not in this game.

@RYNO87 Indeed, the fighters move independently from the carrier. All combat movement happens simultaneously. So while the fighters fly the carrier moves. So you have described it correctly.

@RYNO87 said in Particular Combat movements for Subs and Planes:

Let’s say a sea unit retreats in their combat move from 1 hostile SZ into another hostile SZ with less enemies, does combat have to commence?

Combat will result in any case in which units from opposing sides are in the same space during the Combat phase, regardless of how they got there.

@RYNO87 Yes it does. They fire at the same time (rulebook pages 15/16):

“Attacking and defending units in each space are considered to fire at the same time, but for ease of play you roll dice in
sequence: attacker first, then defender.”

“Surprise Strike: Each attacking submarine conducting a Surprise Strike rolls one die, scoring a hit on a roll of “2” or less.
After the attacker has rolled for all attacking submarines, the defender chooses one sea unit for each hit scored and moves it behind the casualty strip. (Submarines cannot hit air units.) Then each defending submarine conducting a Surprise Strike rolls one die, scoring a hit on a roll of “1.” After the defender has rolled for all defending submarines, the attacker chooses one sea unit for each hit scored and removes it from play.” …

I think two subs to 14 is definitely the way to go. Sink a carrier and not have to fight the fighter!

I also think Africa is not worth the effort for Germany, so its worth dumping a unit in Gibraltar is worth taking away a UK fighter. Even though it’ll cost you the transport, if you’re not going to go for Africa, its an acceptable loss. (I even sometimes tank the armor from Africa and put it in Gibraltar. Sure I’m stranding a tank instead of any infantry, but its a tank that won’t to any more than have a 50-50 chance of knocking out an allied infantry when it is attacked, so I might as well waste the tank instead of an infantry from Europe.)

If your strategy involves pushing Africa or the Middle East with Germany, I still think its worth going after that carrier, but better to save your transport and let that UK fighter live to fight another day.

Thanks Wittmann!