Attacking multiple territories in one combat move?

@midnight_reaper said in Eligible moves:

@fatoumas said in Eligible moves:

@midnight_reaper yes. It helped me a lot. One clarification about my first query. The same applies if on that battle there wanst a destroyer? E.g. UK has the carrier and a fighter, while the Germany has a sub and a fighter. So Germany hits the carrier and the UK doesnt hit a unit on first round of battle. Germany decide to retreat. So subs can retreat by moving on next sea zone? I am asking because, now there is not a destroyer. And subs cant hit the plane, so maybe they cant retreat in another sea zone and only the fighter can move and land on another territory?

When units retreat, either land units on land or naval units at sea, they must retreat to a territory where at least one of the land or naval units moved from during combat movement. (Land units doing an amphibious landing are not allowed to retreat, but that is outside the scope of this question.) In your case, you have 1 submarine and 1 fighter. To end this fight, you have 2 options: retreat or submerge submarine, then retreat.

Retreat: You can retreat as I outlined in my last answer. If you choose to retreat, then you can only retreat to SZ 9 or SZ 15, depending on whether your submarine came from SZ 9 or SZ 15 to attack SZ 14. Your fighter would still hang around until non-combat movement, as discussed previously. What you can not do is retreat your submarine to any other sea zones. You must retreat from whence you came.

Submerge Submarine: If you feel you must retain control of SZ 14, where the combat took place, and you feel like trying your luck against the defending fighter one more time, then you can submerge your submarine instead of retreating. When you submerge a submarine, it quits the fight but doesn’t leave the sea zone. Because you have to start another round of combat in order to submerge, your fighter would have to stay and fight 1 more round before calling off the fight. While this would give you the opportunity to finish off that British fighter, it would also give the British another chance to kill your fighter. See page 16 for submerging in combat and page 27 for submarine-specific rules.

In your specific case, I would retreat instead of submerge if it was me. But now you know what I think your options are.

My 2 IPCs,

-Midnight_Reaper

Everything is clear now. Thanks a lot for the detailed info

@Panther great! Thanks for clarifying!

Cool. Thank you. This makes a lot more sense.

More questions to come!

@Iisded If G has its forces placed to keep the R stack in WR, as it should, then trading Karelia, Ukraine and Caucasus. At some point G will capture Karelia in sufficient strength to hold it, but that is not the death-knell for R. Then R must block Archangel every turn to stop any tanks in Karelia reaching Moscow.

If G (or J) manage to hold Caucasus and start to build there, then the writing is probably on the wall for Moscow.

So my R stack will stay in WR unless any of the following happens:

Against a poor G player R will gradually gain a sufficient advantage to start to use its mobile units (supported by sufficient infantry) to kill off any smaller invading forces without those mobile units then being at risk.

But these moves are what I do against my opponents. I taught all of them to play so their moves are constrained by my guidance. I do not want to pretend that this covers every eventuality that other opponents might present.

@RYNO87 said in Defender Sub sneak attack:

Have a question about sneak attack order with a destroyer. Lets say the attacker has 1 sub and a cruiser and defender has a sub and destroyer. I understand that the attacker sub can’t sneak attack (due to the defender destroyer) but would the defender sub get to sneak attack before the attacker gets his combat turn?

Exactly. The defending destroyer cancels the attacking submarine’s surprise strike ability. So the defending submarine gets its surprise strike before.

Welcome to the forum, Guitarboo88.

You are right - and your cousin is wrong:

@rulebook:

Air Units
Each air unit that moves in the Combat Move phase must generally reserve
part of its Move value for the Noncombat Move phase, when it must return
to a safe landing place using its remaining movement. See page 23 for
examples.
An air unit’s movement in any complete turn is limited to its total Move
value. For example, a bomber has Move 6, but it cannot move 6 spaces to
end its movement in a hostile space. It must save enough movement points
to get to a friendly territory where it can land. A fighter can move up to its
full Move value of 4 to attack in a sea zone, but only if a carrier could be
there for it to land on by the end of the Mobilize New Units phase.

HTH :-)

Glad to have helped. Hope you love the game as much as I do …. :-D

yeah i have 8 dice, and dont use the ones that came with the game if i can help it cause they have rounded corners and spin all day