Attacking multiple territories in one combat move?

@brookview you can also download tripleA. Its free. It could help you since you are a beginner to make sure that you dont do any wrong moves. You can use it even when you play with real boardgame. E.g. do the moves also in tripleA and check if allowed or not. If you are interesting the A&A 1941 map its called WW2 v6 1941 in tripleA.

@midnight_reaper said in Eligible moves:

@fatoumas said in Eligible moves:

@midnight_reaper yes. It helped me a lot. One clarification about my first query. The same applies if on that battle there wanst a destroyer? E.g. UK has the carrier and a fighter, while the Germany has a sub and a fighter. So Germany hits the carrier and the UK doesnt hit a unit on first round of battle. Germany decide to retreat. So subs can retreat by moving on next sea zone? I am asking because, now there is not a destroyer. And subs cant hit the plane, so maybe they cant retreat in another sea zone and only the fighter can move and land on another territory?

When units retreat, either land units on land or naval units at sea, they must retreat to a territory where at least one of the land or naval units moved from during combat movement. (Land units doing an amphibious landing are not allowed to retreat, but that is outside the scope of this question.) In your case, you have 1 submarine and 1 fighter. To end this fight, you have 2 options: retreat or submerge submarine, then retreat.

Retreat: You can retreat as I outlined in my last answer. If you choose to retreat, then you can only retreat to SZ 9 or SZ 15, depending on whether your submarine came from SZ 9 or SZ 15 to attack SZ 14. Your fighter would still hang around until non-combat movement, as discussed previously. What you can not do is retreat your submarine to any other sea zones. You must retreat from whence you came.

Submerge Submarine: If you feel you must retain control of SZ 14, where the combat took place, and you feel like trying your luck against the defending fighter one more time, then you can submerge your submarine instead of retreating. When you submerge a submarine, it quits the fight but doesn’t leave the sea zone. Because you have to start another round of combat in order to submerge, your fighter would have to stay and fight 1 more round before calling off the fight. While this would give you the opportunity to finish off that British fighter, it would also give the British another chance to kill your fighter. See page 16 for submerging in combat and page 27 for submarine-specific rules.

In your specific case, I would retreat instead of submerge if it was me. But now you know what I think your options are.

My 2 IPCs,

-Midnight_Reaper

Everything is clear now. Thanks a lot for the detailed info

@Panther said in Submarine non combat move-hostile zome:

@RYNO87 said in Submarine non combat move-hostile zome:

Sorry about the bump post, I’ll wait 24 hrs next time.

There is no “24 hours-rule”. Bumps are “banned” by our Forum Rules.

There are some capable users willing to help and answer your questions - so just be patient please.

:slightly_smiling_face:

Well, that explains why I rarely see “bumps” around here… Just trying to do the right thing.

-Midnight_Reaper

@scottbrooks said in Combat Questions:

re: #2

So I fully understand, could you clarify / confirm?

Western US is a separate square from sea zone 42. In this case it is 2 moves to get from the land to Midway, in zone 43

You cross three borders (WUS to 42, 42 to 43, 43 to Midway) so it is three movement points.

If that is true, how does it work when attacking a zone like square 45 with Japan surrounded by sea? Using Midway as a staging point, is it 3 moves to get to the Japanese mainland (43->44, 44->45, 45->Japan)?

No. You would cross four borders: Midway to 43, 43 to 44, 44 to 45, 45 to Japan). Note that you would not be able to land your fighter then. So a fighter move would be impossible.

In case your fighter started from a carrier in SZ 43, it would be three movement points to attack Japan. You could land on a carrier in SZ 45, then, provided this can be established as valid landing point.

If this is true, can planes overfly an occupied sea zone (e.g., 45) to stage an attack on Japan?

Yes, but only in case you can - during combat move phase - demonstrate how to land them during noncombat move phase.

@RYNO87 Sea units can never attack territories containing whatever defending units.

In other editions battleships and cruisers under special conditions can support amphibious assaults by shore bombardment, but not in this game.

@Iisded If G has its forces placed to keep the R stack in WR, as it should, then trading Karelia, Ukraine and Caucasus. At some point G will capture Karelia in sufficient strength to hold it, but that is not the death-knell for R. Then R must block Archangel every turn to stop any tanks in Karelia reaching Moscow.

If G (or J) manage to hold Caucasus and start to build there, then the writing is probably on the wall for Moscow.

So my R stack will stay in WR unless any of the following happens:

Against a poor G player R will gradually gain a sufficient advantage to start to use its mobile units (supported by sufficient infantry) to kill off any smaller invading forces without those mobile units then being at risk.

But these moves are what I do against my opponents. I taught all of them to play so their moves are constrained by my guidance. I do not want to pretend that this covers every eventuality that other opponents might present.

@wittmann:

or if you are still unclear.

This reminds me of an old one-liner joke: “Can unclear weapons be used to support ambiguous assaults?”

Thanks a lot P@nther, its very clear now.