Specialist Infantry on the build charts..

@jyardley https://discord.gg/t4JkFdNwpR

@tank-nut

Hey there!

So, I have the V3 map, I haven’t upgraded to V4 yet. But I do know that the V4 map differs in some ways from the V2 map. I can’t remember specifically all of the changes, but there’s more territories now. There’s an extra territory each in England and Japan I know for sure, for example. and I believe an added territory in Norway as well. So while not a ton of changes, there are some that I believe affect the initial setup. I’m sure you could tweak a bit though to make it work if needed. And of course there’s the added terrain features as you mention. Funny you mention not liking the jungle terrain, I specifically bought the V3 map at the time because I wanted the added terrain features!

It’s been a couple years now, so I can’t remember our specifics, but I remember us using our V2 map and using the V3 rules and we just tweaked some set up and/or rules as needed to make it playable before we pulled the trigger on buying the V3 map.

Hope that helps! And I hope you find some UK players!

You’re welcome

@nilboggen https://discord.gg/S5UNMf3c5H

We also played our first games with artillery support for Motorized Infantry, but also realized that once motorized, they become vehicle class. Heck, we even gave the artillery support to Mechanized Infantry…

However, as you noticed, the +1 bonus if for infantry class units, not all infantry named units.

Since motorized infantry can move 2 and tow the artillery (or AA) and retain the infantry 4 defense roll, it does become a bit OP to have two attacks at 3 (Artillery + Supported), plus 2 movement, plus one artillery first strike for 8 IPP.

By comparison, the self-propelled artillery costs 5 IPP, so you would have to pay 10 IPP for the equivalent range and firepower, althought with an extra first strike and blitz capability, but one less defensive point (as both would defend at 3).

The 25% additional cost would not make S-P Artillery worthwhile, unless you have money to burn.

By losing the artillery support when purchasing or upgrading from regular Infantry to Motorized, you have at least have to choose between overall mobility and attack power.

Motorized purchases and upgrades are mostly for Germany and USSR in our games. The upgrade is meaningless in moutain terrain.

If you play the Spanish Civil War Expansion, the rolled event 3 “Failed Embargo” converts 1 Republican infantry unit to a motorized infantry unit. Considering that Spain is almost all mountains, this is more of a punishment, as you gain almost nothing useful and lose the artillery support.

He did say that he thought they should be able to build rail into a neutral but not into another major power’s territory without permission.

You have to remember that the rail capacity in Africa, the Middle East, Asia, and South America is only one unit. Linking Egypt and South Africa would only cost 4 IPP so that’s not too bad considering you can only move one unit. Going from India to Egypt though would cost 10 IPP because of the terrain and one more link. That might be too steep a cost to only move 1 unit. It would cost 18 IPP to complete the link from the US to South America. If the rail capacity were unlimited then such links might be ok, but spending that much to move only 1 unit is probably not worth it. Especially a long link that can be damaged or broken by the enemy in an exposed place like the Middle East. I really like the idea of Cape Town to Cairo though.

Yes, you often can’t have it both ways.

Take the Japanese for example, upgrading your Infantry to Motorized makes perfect sense in China. But besides loosing the ability to pair with Artillery for attack, you also loose the ability to transport them on your destroyers.