• Are Cruisers considered capital ships?


  • @Larrie:

    Are Cruisers considered capital ships?

    I can’t speak for the Global War game rules, but historically the term “capital ships” was a post-Dreadnought term that described both battleships and battlecruisers.  It didn’t cover conventional cruisers, meaning cruisers with guns of around 8-inch caliber or less.


  • Thank you CWO Mark. Does the CWO stand for Chief Warrant Officer by any chance? And yes, I was hoping to find out how it applies to Global War 1939, our group has a game coming up this weekend.


  • @Larrie:

    Does the CWO stand for Chief Warrant Officer by any chance?

    Yes indeed, but in my case it’s just part of my board name; I’m actually a civilian (though one with a great interest in naval history).  As far as Global War goes, I own a copy of the vinyl map but I’ve never seen the rules.  What do they say (if anything) in particular about capital ships, just out of curiosity?


  • @CWO:

    @Larrie:

    Does the CWO stand for Chief Warrant Officer by any chance?

    Yes indeed, but in my case it’s just part of my board name; I’m actually a civilian (though one with a great interest in naval history).  As far as Global War goes, I own a copy of the vinyl map but I’ve never seen the rules.  What do they say (if anything) in particular about capital ships, just out of curiosity?

    The rules state that capital ships cannot be built in Calcutta or Sydney.


  • Capital ships are the 2 hit ships
    Battleships and aircraft carriers

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Larrie:

    Are Cruisers considered capital ships?

    I believe the United States Navy considers a Cruiser a capitol ship.
    In regards to Axis and Allies, Aircraft Carriers and Battleships are the only two capitol ships.


  • Historically, the meaning of the term “capital ship” has evolved over time.  Broadly speaking it refers to the most powerful category of warship in a navy, and in its original usage (dating back to WWI and/or the 1920s) it was a term that encompased both categories of dreadnought-type vessels: battleships and battlecruisers.  This was at a time when it was still believed that naval battles would ultimately be decided by slugging matches between fleets of heavily-armoured warships armed with heavy artillery.  Battlecruisers went out of fashion after WWI, with just a few more being completed from the 1920s onward.  Battleships improved in speed, and by the 1930s and 1940s they had (in a sense) merged with battlecruisers to produce “fast battleships” which combined the speed of battlecruisers with the firepower and protection of battleships.  During WWII, the aircraft carrier displaced battleships as the most important pieces on the naval chessboard, and they became regarded as the new “capital ships” of navies.  Carriers were themselves (arguably) displaced in the capital-ship role by ballistic missile submarines when they arrived on the scene in the 1950s and 1960s – but the point is arguable because CVNs and SSBNs have very different missions and capabilities, and because the largest CVNs (like the Nimitz class carriers) are huge and enormously expensive vessels, even when compared with big SSBNs.

    Uncrustable mentioned that in Global War battleships and carriers are both considered capital ships, and Cmdr Jennifer indicated this also being the case in A&A.  This certainly works from a historical perspective, since the former were considered capital ships at the beginning of the war and the latter at its end.

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