AA50 to be added on GTO.

AA50 has been out for 4 1/2 years….
Almost nobody here is playing it any more
There was a mass exodus to G40 last fall with the release of 2nd edition rules.

Tell your friends at GTO to come play in the A&A.org leagues

Do you still have to play the whole game in one sitting and deal with timers?

Good to know that GTO does bids.  You have to have that when you guys get Global 1940.

10 years from now.  If it took 4 1/2 to get AA50, how long will it take to get Global?

GTO couldn’t even get the rules for REVISED right when I was playing it.  Very frustrating that there was no work-around and you basically had to learn to play with the wrong rules.

At least when Triple A doesn’t follow the rules, you can always force it to.

@Gamerman01:

AA50 has been out for 4 1/2 years….
Almost nobody here is playing it any more
There was a mass exodus to G40 last fall with the release of 2nd edition rules.

Tell your friends at GTO to come play in the A&A.org leagues

Do you still have to play the whole game in one sitting and deal with timers?

Honestly I have played AA50 exactly once since the 1940 1st edition games came out.  The entire AA50 game I was like, “And, I’ll buy 4 mech infantry… oh wait can’t…”  “where are the Naval Bases???”  “Wait, tanks are 3/3 and only 5 IPCs?”  “Aircraft Carriers are 14? oh- 1 hit. that’s dumb…”  “Germany has how much money and can only build ten units because only one factory?”

@Gamerman01:

Good to know that GTO does bids.  You have to have that when you guys get Global 1940.

10 years from now.  If it took 4 1/2 to get AA50, how long will it take to get Global?

GTO couldn’t even get the rules for REVISED right when I was playing it.  Very frustrating that there was no work-around and you basically had to learn to play with the wrong rules.

At least when Triple A doesn’t follow the rules, you can always force it to.

Crazy.

Hard to switch back and forth.

I didn’t even like to switch between '41 and '42 scenarios of AA50.  Stinking turn order was different, which would really screw me up if I was going back and forth and playing 5 games at a time.  Finally had to go to '41 because nobody would play the better scenario - 1942  :-P

With TripleA you can play games pretty fast.  Lot of people playing G40 TripleA league here right now.  You gonna get into the action, Black Jack?

@Gamerman01:

Do you still have to play the whole game in one sitting and deal with timers?

They made some improvements.  Basically, if both players agree to save the game (approx 30 cents each when I was last playing), then it becomes a “PBE” game, which allows asynchronous play.  Both players can log on to the PBE game at once and essentially play live.

So there is something similar to save, but no edit.

This was a huge improvement.  Still, unlike PBEM or play-by-forum, asynchronous PBE sometimes gets casualty selection wrong.  This can be a little frustrating for the purist.

PBE is nice, but it doesn’t compare well to TripleA where you can save a file, then play it online, play it by email, or play by forum as you and your opponent choose.

@TheVenocWarlord:

I prefer GTO as it automatically prevents you from breaking the rules intentionally/unintentionally, there is little to download (just the game you are actually playing), and the map is the actual map itself and the units look nice (just exactly like the example images in the rulebook).

With the exception of the first point (TripleA interprets the rules for us so there’s no cheating), your objections are familiar to me, because I had the same ones when I started playing TripleA.  I was accustomed to GTO but I wanted to try aa50.  I got used to TripleA pretty quickly, and aesthetic preferences became inconsequential compared to the benefits of TripleA features.  Nowadays, I don’t think the GTO map looks any better than the TripleA map, as I’ve gotten used to the TripleA palette.

It’s true that if a map is still beta, TripleA users have to redownload maps (and sometimes the entire program) every 2 months or so to get the latest updates and bug fixes.  But this process takes less time than GTO server updates and/or the process of buying coins and activiating games via GTO.  In GTO’s favor, it is really easy to find an opponent and get a game (live or PBE) started.  But on the other hand there’s only Revised and spring42.

Online Axis and Allied players tend to have a preference for whatever software version they start with, maybe because they associate it with good times.  Perhaps it is because I associate TripleA with good times that I can’t honestly say I think GTO or Battlemap look better than TripleA lol.

Actually perhaps there will be multiple map skins for TripleA maps in the near future.  One of them will probably be a lighter palette similar to GTO or the AA50 Battlemap skin.

There are already multiple map skins on Triplea… including a battlemap one.

@TheVenocWarlord:

When was the last time you played on GTO Zh? They have fixed a lot of the issues with wrong causality selection and misdone rules.

Anyway, I’m going to stick with GTO for the meantime. I may look into TripleA at a later point, but my laptop does not like all the downloads. :p

(Maybe I need to look it to it…)

Depending on what game(s) you want to play, you just download triplea and then in triplea you click ‘download maps,’ put in the location (found on triplea forums) and download the map you want- its automatically installed after that.

@TheVenocWarlord:

When was the last time you played on GTO Zh? They have fixed a lot of the issues with wrong causality selection and misdone rules.

Feel free to go into details….it has been awhile since I played.  When I was playing, asynchronous PBE was still “weakest unit” or “cheapest unit” first on casualty selection.  They were still some spring42 bugs back then, but Krieghund was on the scene helping them out so I assume those have been fixed by now.

@TheVenocWarlord:

(Maybe I need to look it to it…)

You might be surprised how many GTO and former GTO players use it.  For example, the last time I was active on the lobby (like a month ago unfortunately) Hitman and Demandred were often seen in the Global multi games.  Other GTO users are there under different names, as you can play anonymously under whatever name/account you want.

@TheVenocWarlord:

Okay. Not too bad then. I think the biggest thing is having to tell your opponent all the steps you made on your turn.

In the last year or so “play-by-forum” has taken off.  With this function, TripleA sends a printout of the combat moves as well as a turn summary to a forum page.  These “turn summaries” also work for play-by-email.  I don’t have an example of a Revised or AA50 game handy cause right now since everyone is playing global, but here is an example of a play-by-forum game using the Global ruleset.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29792.0

how-to guide

http://www.axisandallies.org/p/how-to-play-axis-allies-org-forum-games-with-triplea/

Come on in, Venoc.  The water’s warm.

The first time switching to Tripple A from GTO is hard, but once you get used to it you’ll love it. The three best features are being able to save a game, being able to edit, and the amount of Axis and Allies variants there are to choose from. I played over a 1000 games of revised on GTO before I found tripple A. Since switching I have played maybe 5 games of Revised.

So has GTO scratched this? Or just more waiting? If this is true then i cant wait!!

GTO looks better than tripleA, and is easier for new players to learn
It also plays better/ more fluidly

but triplea is free and has wayy more maps, and is easily edited (and does not look half bad either)
and is super easy (and again free!) to play by email/forum

you cant compare apples to oranges. I prefer an apple but i eat oranges too!

For more leisurely paced games (play by email/forum) tripleA is better
But GTO takes the cake in realtime

I do beleive GTO can be play by email though aswell