13L G40.2 Gamerman01 (Allies +9) vs. Jeff28 (Axis)

Need casualty choice in Z98

All 3 subs hit (allbeit on 2’s) and I took off your carrier and a hit to battleship
Now I have 3 more hits scored and not sure if you want to lose your battleship before your tac or not

On the bright side, your unit in the Phillipines defeated an infantry and a tank  :x
And your destroyer in 20 miraculously sunk 2 super subs

Well, I’ve got other games to play and don’t want to leave this hanging in the middle of the USA turn.
Bad enough I had to get re-oriented to what was going on and what units I had after the layoff.

If I were you, I’d take off the Battleship because the UK can follow up and attack, and if I retreat the planes could land safely in Egypt.  Also, a good chance I keep at least one super sub that could paste your battleship with no return fire, and taking the battleship off now takes the subs out of the fight for round 2.

Proceeding, then.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :7

Research Technology - Americans
            Americans spend 10 on tech rolls
            Americans removing all Technology Tokens after successful research.
            Americans discover Heavy Bomber

Activate Technology - Americans
            Americans activating Heavy Bomber

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Morocco to 98 Sea Zone
            3 submarines moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Morocco to 98 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Tunisia
                  Americans take Tunisia from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 armour moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
            1 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
            1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 19 Sea Zone from Japanese
            1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            4 submarines moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Marshall Islands
            Battle in Philippines
                Americans attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery and 1 harbour
                Japanese win, taking Marshall Islands from Japanese with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Americans: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Battle in 20 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 2 submarines
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 4 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Americans win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese with 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 3 submarines
                Germans defend with 1 transport; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                Americans win, taking 98 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 67
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
                Casualties for Americans: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 submarines

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New Brunswick Nova Scotia to 106 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from New Brunswick Nova Scotia to 106 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New Brunswick Nova Scotia to 106 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from New Brunswick Nova Scotia to 106 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 artillery moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 armour moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Wake Island to Caroline Islands
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 armour moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            2 fighters moved from Western United States to Wake Island
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Syria
            1 bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Algeria
            2 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from British Columbia to Western United States

Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 78 PUs

Doing combat move still…
I’d like to change a destroyer I bought into 2 artillery

I guess a destroyer only costs me 7
Well, I had one IPC left over so I’ll spend that too I guess

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :7

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 0 techTokens;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            2 fighters moved from 98 Sea Zone to Northwest Persia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Northwest Persia
            2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Malta to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Morocco to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Algeria to Libya
                  British take Libya from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 artillery moved from India to Burma

Combat - British
            Battle in Holland Belgium
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Battle in Egypt
                British attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 harbour
                British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Italians, taking Egypt from Italians with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
            Battle in 93 Sea Zone
                British attack with 3 fighters
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer
                British win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Burma
                British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Northwest Persia
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
                British win, taking Northwest Persia from Germans with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 29
                Casualties for Germans: 4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Persia
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in United Kingdom
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 2 artilleries
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 1 to 0
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 8 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery

@Jeff28:

Struggling with work, sorry for the slow responses.

Have 7 games going on will probably be doing the minimum to stay out of getting bumped to death all over the place to be honest.

I should probably just resign but would like to play a couple rounds to confirm its hopeless.

Right - you actually still have some hope of a Pacific win, I think, which is why I’m starting to build more there.  I really wanted to put things in the Atlantic with USA but I think the only threat is from Japan taking India and then NSW

I will not bump you if you write me a note at least once a week
If you think you still have life, it’s not sportsmanlike of me to pressure a win without playing until you resign
As long as you don’t abandon the game for weeks at a time

Have a successful week, Jeff

@Jeff28:

I’m not playing with tech any more, this variance is very unfair.

said many a player that has played gamerman a tech game…  :-o

But you never bought any - of course there will be a “variance”
I took the risk of throwing my money away.
Suit yourself - your loss  :-)

You know, all I’m doing is playing my game, and by the rules.

So I broke open a destroyer block in the med and hit some techs.  That’s how you play the game.

Nonsense.  I had 1 bomber and its odds went from 2/3 to 90% on each attack.  I bought a second bomber.  I’m still not getting my $10 worth.

Don’t agree to play with tech if you can’t handle it when your opponent hits.

The dice in a typical battle (like Z98, Normandy, and Egypt that you just carried out) matter more than the techs I’ve hit (except super subs)

Speaking of super subs, your lone destroyer handled TWO of them.
Have I even bought ships with the UK to realize the $5 I spent on boats yet?

The tech hits are not nearly as significant as you make them out to be.  Now if I had hit LRA at a crucial moment, that would be significant.

But still not “game-breaking”.  After all, it’s all within the realm of possibilities.

I said I did everything according to the rules because it’s not like I did anything cheap.

You can play without tech and still lose 5/5 aircraft to AA fire on G1 or G2 like happened to somebody in another game.

Don’t comment on my tech hits when you never bought any yourself.  You could have hit 5/5 by now - we’ll never know.

I think you’re just frustrated because you’re getting beat.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :7

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to 37 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                ANZAC attack with 1 submarine and 1 transport; Americans loiter and taunt with
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                ANZAC win, taking 35 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in Philippines
            Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                ANZAC attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                ANZAC win, taking Philippines from Japanese, taking 37 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to India
            1 destroyer moved from 44 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to South Australia
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
            1 aaGun moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            1 aaGun moved from Queensland to South Australia

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 armour and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :7

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

@Gamerman01:

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :7

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

A turn worthy of the French  :lol:

Hey Jeff,

I think you might enjoy this thread. http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=20330.90
When I was searching for it, I noticed that you had started a thread asking about tech, yourself, about 2 years ago.

I am just starting a 2nd game with Allweneedislove.  I ripped off 3 consecutive techs for $5 with America (shipyards, jets, and heavy bombers) on rounds 3, 4, and 5 I think it was.  Then I went and got a land tech, improved mech, with the UK (mostly useless, but then my odds of the all-powerful rockets or paratroopers were increased)

Guess what?  Even though Allweneed didn’t spend one red cent on tech and I hit him with a barrage, he wants to play the 2nd game with tech also.  He is that convinced it’s a waste of money.

Like you said, no more tech for you.  That’s understandable.  If you don’t want your opponent to get a tech that can hurt you the most when you least expect it, well, the only way to avoid that is to play no tech.

This game has an infinite number of possibilities WITHOUT tech.  I play it because it’s fun, and more options is better and more fun in my opinion.

Anyway, I think you will enjoy the read.  :-)