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three questions:
1. In OOB I understand Kamikaze attacks perfectly. � However, I want to ask if there was any change to them for the latest Alpha +3?
I am asking because from reading Alpha +3, it really sounds like Japan can make kamikaze attacks from the very start of the game, since the sheet mentions nothing about any conditions necessary to do the attacks (ie: having to wait for the allies to capture one of those ~4 islands).
2. I do not understand the Japan - Russian relationship, in either OOB or Alpha+3.
Does it work like this: Either Japan or Russia can declare war on each other, any time they want [beginning of combat move], from the start of the game?
Besides the weird mongolian rules, that relationship has no effect on anything else….
3. Is Mongolia part of the “Strict Neutrals”?� I mean, if the axis attack Sweden or another strict neutral, do the mongolians become friendly to the Allies?� If the allies attack mongolia, does Sweden then become friendly to the axis?
And if Russia attacks a Japanese territory, like Manchuria, that borders Mongolia, and then Japan recaptures it, does Mongolia still convert to Russian?
thx
veqryn
Krieg, any idea?
Gamerman01 and kcdzim answered these questions on the previous page. Is there something they didn’t cover to your satisfaction?
1. Kamikaze requirements changed between OOB and Alpha3. There is no Allied capture of certain islands requirement anymore (Alpha2?)
2. Basically in OOB Russia or Japan can declare war on the other whenever they want at no penalty. Later a penalty of 12 IPC’s was added to Russia if Japan attacked Russia (I think it was). Now that’s gone and the weird Mongolian rules reign. I stopped keeping track as soon as the weird Mongolian rules were introduced. (I mean, really)
3.
Soviet/Japanese Non Aggression Pact: Due to their mutual border conflct with Japan in 1939, the Soviet Union and Mongolia have a special relationship. If the Japanese attack any Soviet territory that is adjacent to any Mongolian territory, all Mongolian territories (Olgiy, Dzavhan, Tsagaan-Olom, Central Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar, and Buyant-Uhaa) that are still neutral are placed under the control of the Soviet Union at the end of the Japanese Combat Move phase, in the same manner as though the Soviet Union had moved land units into a friendly neutral territory. These territories have Soviet control markers placed on them, and their standing army units are placed on the board and are controlled by the Soviet Union player from then on. This occurs regardless of the state of relations between the Soviet Union and Japan at the time of the attack, with one exception: If the Soviet Union attacks any Japanese-controlled territory bordering these Mongolian territories while Mongolia is still neutral, Mongolia will remain neutral and not ally itself with the Soviet Union. In addition, the Mongolian territories will never become pro-Axis unless one or more of them is attacked by the Soviet Union.
Based on my reading of the current rules per the above Alpha 3 section on this:
A: If Axis attacks Strict Neutral (eg Sweden), Mongolia will go Pro Allied.
B: If Allies attack Strict Neutral (eg Sweden), Mongolia will remain an isolated Strict Neutral
C: If Axis attacks Mongolia while Mongolia is still Strict Neutral, ALL Strict Neutrals (eg Sweden) will go Pro Allied.
D: If Russia attacks a Japanese controlled territory adjacent to Mongolia, Mongolian territories will never ally themselves with Russia and remain an isolated strict neutral. This means that if Russia attacks Manchuria, Japan is completely free to respond and will NEVER anger the Mongolians unless Japan attacks mongolia directly. (hope for this).
E: If Japan attacks a russian territory adjacent to Mongolia, but not a Mongolian territory, Mongolia lights up as Russian, activates all her infantry, and becomes russian controlled. But if Japan attacks a russian territory AND mongolia during the same combat move phase, Mongolia is still a strict neutral and will change alliances of all strict neutrals. (don’t do that ever).
No, just that kcdzim seemed not 100% sure of his answer.
Thx for the clarification, krieg, gamer, kcdzim.
Man these Mongolian rules are just plain nuts….
to be more specific, they are very complicated and do not add anything to the game beyond complexity
Ok, I do need further clarification:
D. Do you mean that if Russia attacks a Japanese controlled Manchuria, that Mongolia stays neutral. Then if Japan re-conquers Manchuria, Mongolia still stays neutral. Then the next turn, if Japan conquers Amur, that Mongolia stays neutral still?
Yes. If Russia attacks Manchuria, Mongolia will NEVER flip to Russian controlled upon Japanese retaliation, anywhere at anytime.
F: If British or a non-Russian country attacks Sweden (strict neutral), then Mongolia will stay as neutral. Then if Japan attacks Amur next turn, Mongolia will become Russian still? Or stay as Neutral?
If any ally, including Russia, attacks Sweden (or any euro strict neutral), Mongolia will remain neutral. However, if Japan attacks Amur the next turn, Mongolia will flip at the end of Japan’s combat move phase. In this current rule set, It’s kind of a diplomatic one way street on the allied side. If someone attacks Mongolia while it’s a strict neutral, it will flip every strict neutral on the european board. But if the allies attacks a european neutral, it does nothing to the Pacific neutrals. However, if the axis attack a strict neutral on the euro side, Mongolia will switch to pro ally.
thx,
veqryn
lol, sorry to bring this up one more time,
G. If Russia attacks Mongolia, do the European Strict Neutrals become Pro-Axis?
H. If a non-Russian Allied power, like the UK, attacks Mongolia, does mongolia become Pro-Axis, and does the European Strict Neutrals become Pro-Axis?
thx,
veq