Sorry for the stupid questions but I’m playing the allies tomorrow and I don’t have my rule books with me. Just one more stupid question, The US collects their war time NOs when they declare war during the collect income phase of their third turn or if provoked into war earlier, correct?
Some questions from the beautiful city of Oslo:
1. When Germany and the Sovjet Union are not at war with eachother, can the UK land an aircraft in a territory belonging to the SU? F. ex. after attacking german ships? And vice versa: Can the SU land aircraft in a territory belonging to the UK (prior to the SU being at war with Germany)?
2. Can the UK and the SU mix any units while Germany and the US is not at war?
3. Can the UK and ANZAC mix units and use eachothers naval bases when they are still not at war with Japan?
4. Can Germany attack the UK ships in SZ 106 on G1, without provoking the US into war? Especially since there is a convoy in that sea zone.
5. Can you disrupt convoys without being at war with that particular nation? Can f. ex. Germany disrupt the convoy in SZ 106? Or the SU disrupt the one in SZ 125?
6. Do you have to make a DOW at the beginning of your turn to be able to disrupt a nations convoys in the non-combat phase?
Thanks (-:
Some questions from the beautiful city of Oslo:
1. When Germany and the Soviet Union are not at war with each other, can the UK land an aircraft in a territory belonging to the SU? F. ex. after attacking german ships? And vice versa: Can the SU land aircraft in a territory belonging to the UK (prior to the SU being at war with Germany)?
No. While both are allied nations, Russia is not at war with Germany, therefore, they cannot host the British to dinner. Once they are both at war with the same nation, you may use each other as per any other allied nation.
2. Can the UK and the SU mix any units while Germany and the US is not at war?
Yes, if England and Russia are at war with Germany, but America has not declared war on them yet (or had war Declared on them.)
3. Can the UK and ANZAC mix units and use each others naval bases when they are still not at war with Japan?
Yes. Australia is part of the British Empire. They are treated as a sovereign nation in the game to divide England’s money up.
4. Can Germany attack the UK ships in SZ 106 on G1, without provoking the US into war? Especially since there is a convoy in that sea zone.
Germany and England are at war. Hostilities are already established between those nations and America has already decided to feign neutrality. Attacking those ships will not bring America into the war.
5. Can you disrupt convoys without being at war with that particular nation? Can f. ex. Germany disrupt the convoy in SZ 106? Or the SU disrupt the one in SZ 125?
The Germans can, because Germany is at war with England (Political Situation) at the start of the game. Russia may not disrupt German convoys until Round 4, or when Germany declares war on them. Likewise, German U-Boats off the coast of the West Indies do not disrupt American convoys until America and Germany are at war. Same with the other side of the board.
6. Do you have to make a DOW at the beginning of your turn to be able to disrupt a nations convoys in the non-combat phase?
If you do not make a DOW, then you are not at war. If your enemy declares war on you, then you are at war. If you are playing “automatic convoys” then it does not matter, if you are playing from the manual, well, Gamer and Krieg will have to answer you there. I believe war is war is war and since convoy damage only comes into play during the enemy’s collect income phase, then yes, they take damage if you are at war by the time they collect income.
@Trisdin:
Sorry for the stupid questions but I’m playing the allies tomorrow and I don’t have my rule books with me. Just one more stupid question, The US collects their war time NOs when they declare war during the collect income phase of their third turn or if provoked into war earlier, correct?
If America declares war at the end of their third round, they do so just prior to their collect income phase, therefore, they collect their war time National Objectives at that time. If Russia declares war, they may do it at the start of their 4th round, therefore, they may not collect their war time National Objectives until the collect income phase after hostilities have been initialized.
4. Can Germany attack the UK ships in SZ 106 on G1, without provoking the US into war? Especially since there is a convoy in that sea zone.
There is no way you can draw the USA into the war by disrupting UK convoys. Forget about the fact that USA is shipping stuff to UK - that is irrelevant for gameplay purposes.
5. Can you disrupt convoys without being at war with that particular nation? Can f. ex. Germany disrupt the convoy in SZ 106? Or the SU disrupt the one in SZ 125?
Never. You absolutely must be at war with the target nation to disrupt their convoy. When you disrupt 106, that is a UK convoy only. Convoys go with who owns the adjoining territory - don’t even think about the “other end” of the convoy - it is irrelevant.
6. Do you have to make a DOW at the beginning of your turn to be able to disrupt a nations convoys in the non-combat phase?
As Jenn said, if they declared war on you previously, then you are automatically at war with them anyway. So the answer to your question is “yes, unless they declared on you first”. Example: Germany declares war on Russia on G2, and Russia had moved a sub to Z125 on R1. If Germany does not destroy that sub on G2, Germany’s income will be reduced by 2 even though Russia has not declared war yet because she hasn’t had a turn yet.
Per page 9 of the Europe manual, you are supposed to declare war at the beginning of the Combat Move phase. So if you are the one initiating a state of war, you would declare war in your combat move phase. Convoys are disrupted during the TARGET’s turn, not the aggressor’s. So if at the end of the target nation’s turn the disrupting ships have not been sunk, they will receive less income as a result of convoy attacks.
You could move your ships to the target zone (with the convoy symbol) during your non-combat move (or combat move) but that is not when the convoy is disrupted. It’s not until the collect income phase of the target nation that the convoy is effectively disrupted.
Jenn adequately answered 1-3 and I am in agreement with her answers.
Krieg is away and has asked me to watch the FAQ for him. When he comes back he’ll read all questions and answers and make any edits or additions necessary.
I think Gamer missed the one exeption. Nations declare war at the beginning of their combat move phase, EXCEPT the United States who may declare war at the end of Round 3, prior to collecting income for their National Objectives.
@Cmdr:
Some questions from the beautiful city of Oslo:
1. When Germany and the Soviet Union are not at war with each other, can the UK land an aircraft in a territory belonging to the SU? F. ex. after attacking german ships? And vice versa: Can the SU land aircraft in a territory belonging to the UK (prior to the SU being at war with Germany)?
No. While both are allied nations, Russia is not at war with Germany, therefore, they cannot host the British to dinner. Once they are both at war with the same nation, you may use each other as per any other allied nation.
This is an over-simplification. Normally, two powers on the same side can occupy the same territory as long as both are at war (it doesn’t matter with whom). However, the USSR has a special rule that it must be at war Germany/Italy to do that on the Europe map, and it must be at war with Japan to do that on the Pacific map. So even if both UK and USSR were are war with Japan, USSR could not move units to United Kingdom unless it was at war with Germany and/or Italy.
Krieg is away and has asked me to watch the FAQ for him. When he comes back he’ll read all questions and answers and make any edits or additions necessary.
I’m not really “away” so much as very busy for a while. I’ll still be checking in once or twice a day on most days.
Thanks for helping- all you good people (-:
In the rulebook it is stated that the american naval unit can only stay in the three sea zone next to their homeland in the Atlantic side of the map, and can go anywhere except next to a Japanese land in the pacific.
Is it fair to assume that you can move the planes into London? And you can stilll go after South America, I suppose?
If American Planes are in London, and Germany attack, the planes are not into the fight if America is not a war, but what happen if Germany takes London? Where do the planes go? Let’s say Scotland has been taken. Where do they go?
In the rulebook it is stated that the american naval unit can only stay in the three sea zone next to their homeland in the Atlantic side of the map, and can go anywhere except next to a Japanese land in the pacific.
Well, not really the rulebook, but the Alpha2 rules that are Larry’s latest, which can be found on his website.
Is it fair to assume that you can move the planes into London? And you can stilll go after South America, I suppose?
NO. Read the sidebar on page 15 of the Europe 1940 manual. USA cannot move any units to territories of Allies whatsoever, until USA is at war. Also, note that transports are not allowed in Z102 (not that there’s any reason to put them there, other than baiting the Axis to start a war)
If American Planes are in London, and Germany attack, the planes are not into the fight if America is not a war, but what happen if Germany takes London? Where do the planes go? Let’s say Scotland has been taken. Where do they go?
American planes are not allowed in London when America is not at war.
Too bad the Philippino plane cannot go to Australia either.
Theoretically, it COULD go to China, but that’s out too, I believe
@Cmdr:
Too bad the Philippino plane cannot go to Australia either.
Theoretically, it COULD go to China, but that’s out too, I believe
Can’t go to China, even though the flying tigers somehow got there. :-P
@Cmdr:
Too bad the Philippino plane cannot go to Australia either.
Theoretically, it COULD go to China, but that’s out too, I believe
Can’t go to China, even though the flying tigers somehow got there. :-P
Yea…sucks dontit?
Allright, but the US can and it is encouraged to go in South America?
And in the Pacific, they cannot go anywhere?
Allright, but the US can and it is encouraged to go in South America?
I told you to read the sidebar of Page 15 of the Europe 1940 manual. It’s very clear that a power that is not at war (that begins the game neutral) cannot move land or air units into neutral territories (first sentence under “Movement:”)
And in the Pacific, they cannot go anywhere?
As you said, NAVAL units (including fighters on carriers) can go anywhere on the Pacific board that is not adjoining a Japanese controlled territory. LAND and AIR units can only park on USA controlled territories before the USA is at war with an Axis power, and this applies to both Europe and Pacific halves.
USA cannot even move into Canada until at war with the Axis.
Note that USA can move to zones such as Z54, but cannot use the Allied naval base until USA is at war. So you could get to Australia from Hawaii in one move using the Hawaii naval base, but you can’t get back to Hawaii from Australia in one move (can only move two spaces from Z54) until the USA is at war. This has tripped me up before - I move to 54 thinking I can get back to 26 in one turn but I can’t.
@Cmdr:
Too bad the Philippino plane cannot go to Australia either.
Theoretically, it COULD go to China, but that’s out too, I believe
Can’t go to China, even though the flying tigers somehow got there. :-P
Well, prior to US involvment (or Dec 1941), that lightning could easily represent loaned Soviet planes. After Nov 1941 the tigers were more or less in place. So, if you want to be accurate about it, simply switch out the US plane for a soviet plane until the US is in the war (upon which time the soviet plane gets replaced). Or don’t be so specific about what that chinese plane really represents beyond an airforce that could never be replaced by the chinese.
Can an American transport pickup American troops in Morroco and than use the British naval base in Girbralter to move 3 sea zones?
I guess a better question is explain to me how the US couldn’t use the naval base in Gibraltar. In your example you have US at war with Germ(hence why they can move into Morocco in the first place) So US and UK are allies….
I guess a better question is explain to me how the US couldn’t use the naval base in Gibraltar. In your example you have US at war with Germ(hence why they can move into Morocco in the first place) So US and UK are allies….
I figure because the transports are operating on the African coast, they wouldn’t be able to use the naval base on the opposite coast.
