Bob_A_Mickelson's AAG40 National Production/Objectives and Setup Charts

You should split them up. Also, produce charts for AA50 and AA42 and have them all in this one thread… in one place.

Setup’s, NO’s and Tech all on separate plates.

As per the thread on Larry’s site the curret Alpha 2 is the final and will be printed in upcoming prints of the both Europe and Pacific.

My suggestions for changes might be:

IPC Tracking and Tech on one chart, split horizontal.  Basically remove the NO’s from the current IPC, put the tech where they were and extend both to the left edge.

Seperate page for NO’s should fit in that same amount of space.

@Bob_A_Mickelson:

When Larry releases his final update (the one that will be listed in the FAQ) I will create new setup charts.

As for splitting up the tech chart and NO charts. I suspect that that it will have to be done since the number of NOs is increasing. If NO’s are continued to be marked on the charts using my present system I will need 49 spots to put them. Thats alot of space. I know that i can fit up to 45 with the current system but going to 49 seems a bit too much.

Suggestions?

My suggestion would be to make a spot for the multiple territory NO’s and place a control marker on for each NO achieved. For example USSR takes 2 original German territories and places 2 control markers on the spot for the bonus. They get 3 IPC’s for each German territory they hold so with two markers they get 6 in Collect Income Phase. This would cut the NO spots down to 32 if I counted right.

I second this suggestion. It’s tough for me to find room for the play aids with the map being the same size as my table. The more compact the better, but not sacrificing usability. Stacking the control markers for similar objectives sounds great.

Bob, these look really good. Any chance that the task force markers and tokens will be made for the AAE40 game like the ones you did for AAP40? Thanks.

would it be an inconvenience for you to send people your complete files by email, as in with all the different layers intact for others to play around with? or can you already seperate the layers with the current files?

The files are locked, can’t modify the layers.  I have been working on my own, not as fancy as Bob’s, and I wouldn’t give the source files out.  I can’t imagine the time he has spent on these, I think that is a pretty unreasonable request.

@Bob_A_Mickelson:

I haven’t seen much demand for these so right now I’m saying no. You know you could always purchase a set of the revised edition marshaling cards at historicalboardgames.com. The price is pretty reasonable.

I do have a set of the cards from Revised and they work good especially for AA42. I was looking to add nation specific cards to use. I have a copy of the ones that you made for AAP40 and was waiting on using those until AAE40 was done so I could have a complete set of all of the nations.

@94Canuck:

The files are locked, can’t modify the layers.  I have been working on my own, not as fancy as Bob’s, and I wouldn’t give the source files out.  I can’t imagine the time he has spent on these, I think that is a pretty unreasonable request.

i assume that means that we can edit the ones that we do have access to then? or is that still a violation of copyright?

i have modified bobs charts for alpha+2 europe and pacific setups and also made task force markers for europe. i wont put it on the internet unless i get permission to do so

Just ran into this detail in game.

Japan collects the 10 IPC NO as long as not at war with USA, has not invaded FIC, and has not made an unprovoked attack on UK/ANZ

In our game, Germany took England G3.  Because this attack was imminent (12 G transports), UK and ANZ declared war on Japan during round 2 to grab NO money.  Then on J3 when Japan attacked UK, I was thinking the NO was gone, but it’s not gone yet because the 3 conditions are met.

The NO on your chart (I think I printed my chart from this source - not entirely sure!) says “…cannot declare war on UK/ANZ” but this is misleading, because J can declare war on UK/ANZ if UK/ANZ declared on J first, and still collect the NO.  I think it would be a major improvement if you edited the wording to include “unprovoked” or something to that same effect.

OK, yeah it must have been from somewhere else.

How can I make these?  Like with cardboard and stuff

Get them printed them laminated.

Great Job!!!

Bob,

After a year of change, Larry has placed a bookend on the Alpha project and the Alpha +3 rule set will become the 2nd edition for the game.  I list this post at Larry’s site for your reading:

@Larry:

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I hear ya Questioneer! Everyday I come to this site hoping to hear from Larry or see a final version, but everyday I am disappointed when all I see is more blah blah crap on the alpha 3 thread.

I’m sorry folks… It seems that I may have left some unfinished business out there for some of you.
Things were pretty clear to me… On November 3 this Alpha effort was to be wrapped up, and so it was.
The Alpha 3 as officially posted is pretty much where this game is  http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149.  Now I’m working on getting a new set of rules published for the 2nd editions of AAPac40 and AAEur40.   When I have some new information or something I think you should know – I’ll let you know.

If you have a question or two or something you’d like to talk about let me know…

Larry

I look forward to the updates of your top flight Setup Charts.

Thanks for your efforts.