Turn Order?

How large is the map going to be when it is printed?

I am trying to get an idea of how large the territories are going to be,

@i:

hey wouldnt there be a naval base in halifax

quebec is getting an ic and the naval base. so the mouth of the saint lawrence has access to the atlantic.

nova scotia might me a part of the quebec territory, but if it is not there is no need to have 2 territories side by side, both with naval bases.

Hi all, the map prints out onto 16 sheets of A4 paper; I don’t know the exact dimensions of that though. It’s much bigger than the AA50 map.

Thanks for the correction on New Foundland; my typo there. Nova Scotia is connected to Quebec. Quebec will start the game with a Minor IC.

@Lozmoid:

Hi all, the map prints out onto 16 sheets of A4 paper; I don’t know the exact dimensions of that though. It’s much bigger than the AA50 map.

Thanks for the correction on New Foundland; my typo there. Nova Scotia is connected to Quebec. Quebec will start the game with a Minor IC.

A4 paper size is 8.27 X 11.69 inches.

Once i saw the first post i thought to myself, Germany better go first! I mean that wouldn’t make sense.

@Lozmoid:

Hi all, the map prints out onto 16 sheets of A4 paper; I don’t know the exact dimensions of that though. It’s much bigger than the AA50 map.

A4 paper size is 8.27 X 11.69 inches.

So I am guessing that the map is 32.08 x 46.76 inches

Thanks Brain, that would be about right. Although, not quite large as that because I has to trim the edge of the paper right to the map border (along the top and bottom half). But before you print it, make sure you go to page set up and set the size to fit ‘4 by 4’ on A4. Obviously, if your printer can do A3 then go ahead and do that. Well, it only just fits on my table. But the good thing is, the territories are pretty big.

Depending on how much trimming you’ve done, you may be able to use E size paper which is 34" x  44."

Yeah, that is a possibility. But hey, I’ve already printed it and taped it all together. Working on the set up now, will post a pic soon… It’s looking awesome to say the least!  :-)

@Lozmoid:

Yeah, that is a possibility. But hey, I’ve already printed it and taped it all together. Working on the set up now, will post a pic soon… It’s looking awesome to say the least!  :-)

I will eagerly await.

@Dylan:

So i guess Canada is not a power

No.  It’s officially been ruled out and there wasn’t much hope for it anyway.

How did this thread turn into another “Canada was excluded” thread.

This Canada thing has become spam or some kind of a virus infecting all the threads.

Canada will still be in the game, it just won’t be a seperate power.

@Dylan:

@SilverAngelSurfer:

@Dylan:

So i guess Canada is not a power

No.  It’s officially been ruled out and there wasn’t much hope for it anyway.

Will the other Canadian Provinces/Territories still have a Canadian logo or will they just replace it with a British logo or do you think Canada will have some unites in British control. or should i just deal with it that Canada are just screwed from the game

If you want to find out about the Canadian situation, check out one of the threads about Canada.  This one will probably be best for what you’re asking right now. http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=17683.90

@SilverAngelSurfer:

@Dylan:

@SilverAngelSurfer:

@Dylan:

So i guess Canada is not a power

No.  It’s officially been ruled out and there wasn’t much hope for it anyway.

Will the other Canadian Provinces/Territories still have a Canadian logo or will they just replace it with a British logo or do you think Canada will have some unites in British control. or should i just deal with it that Canada are just screwed from the game

If you want to find out about the Canadian situation, check out one of the threads about Canada.  This one will probably be best for what you’re asking right now. http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=17683.90

Wow I think we should just wait until it comes to see what happens in Canada. In summer it will happen the epic war will start

Hi all,

Just for those who are interested - I’ve posted a photo of my Europe 1941 game map (with all units set up) in the House Rules section, for discussion.

Cheers!  :-)

@Lozmoid:

Hi all,

Just for those who are interested - I’ve posted a photo of my Europe 1941 game map (with all units set up) in the House Rules section, for discussion.

Cheers!  :-)

I was wondering what was going on with your game.

i just thought i’d mention this for all the people who hate the nutcracker strategy (like me, i think it is cheap and dumb), russia needs to go BEFORE germany, not after

so for example

germany
russia
italy

this would allow italy to be the nutcracker

but
russia
germany
italy

and
germany
italy
russia

in these two cases, italy can not be the nutcracker (technically germany could crack it for italy, but since italy can’t take moscow this doesn’t count)

i seriously prefer these last two turn orders to the first one

simply because the nut cracker strategy is really bad game design and no fun, in my opinion

thx,
veqryn

@Veqryn:

simply because the nut cracker strategy is really bad game design and no fun, in my opinion

The ‘nutcracker’ is fine. It’s a good tactic and makes the game more interesting.

Sure, it challenges the default “I’ll just leave one infantry behind, and I’ll be fine for another turn” mindset, but breaking down that way of thinking is a good thing for the game.

Here’s how the USSR (or any other big power, for that matter) needs to defend against the nutcracker: the minimum ‘holding’ stack becomes the smallest number of units that will be able to successfully hold the Italians (or any small power) off (and leave you with at least the standard one infantry left standing to fend off the more powerful follow-up attack). Given how few units the Italians will normally be able to afford to throw into the eastern front, where none of their N.O.s will be, this minimal stack shouldn’t be too hard for the USSR to afford. And if there are plenty of Italians in Russia, then the Axis will have some pretty big problems coming their way soon from the Med and across the English Channel.

Failing to defend against a nutcracker is just sloppy play. An experienced and vigilant player will be able to see it coming and figure out the appropriate response, whether that’s a defence or a counterattack.

Maybe the turn order should be:

1 All Axis countries
2 All Allied countries

This would get rid of all of these nutcracker/can opener strategies.

that depends on which axis go before which axis

if italy goes before germany, without russia inbetween, then you would still get the nut cracker