15L Playoff Rd2: [4] JDOW (Axis) vs. [8] Gamerman01 (Allies +25)

[gamerman01]

Late edit of USA fighter from 110 to London - I gained nothing from leaving it out on the carrier, didn’t think it through during USA noncom I guess

That’s 4 turns with slightly above average luck, but those round 8 hits still hurt

[JDOW]

No problem about the edit and fair enough with the dice.

Sorry for the delay, I have been out of town recently and busy evenings. I guess I can move tomorrow.

[gamerman01]

OK, thanks
ANZAC has been ready to go since the UK turn posted - all their units are pretty much spoken for so it will be real quick and easy and you can follow with Germany

[JDOW]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 bombers moved from Novgorod to Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,1,3,6,6
            Italians collect 5 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs total

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[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Java

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 fighters moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 77 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to Bryansk
            1 aaGun moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
            1 aaGun moved from South Australia to Northern Territory
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
            1 artillery moved from South Australia to Northern Territory
            1 artillery moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
            4 infantry moved from South Australia to Northern Territory
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs

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[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            2 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
            2 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to India
            2 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq

Turn Complete - French

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[JDOW]

Ii am afraid I need to request a timeout till Tuesday. I am out of town Friday - Sunday.

The position is super competitive and I had a look yesterday but couldn’t finish because I came to the conclusion I would need to try to simulate how the map could look like after J10 to decicde whether to take a shot at the 30% can opener with the German bomber or not.

Unfortunately the next evening with enough time will be Tuesday. Tonight I have just a small slot I will use to give RegularKid the chance to make his US/Chi/UK move over the weekend and move the way easier J6. I won’t be able to do the necessary simulations to J10 in our game tonight.

Sorry for the delay. You postponed your nerqueen game and now I am delaying the game.
However the tension is high. Any glitch could be decisive.
I am confident I can speed up next week again.

Cheers,
Tobias

[boldfresh]

JDOW’s nightmare - what if it’s already decided? :evil:

[gamerman01]

It’s not

[gamerman01]

@JDOW:

I came to the conclusion I would need to try to simulate how the map could look like after J10 to decicde whether to take a shot at the 30% can opener with the German bomber or not.

I think you’ll conclude that’s a bad idea.  Even if it works, I only have one transport in 54, 3 planes, couple carriers…. you have few cheap casualties and whatever fleet and air you send will be badly out of position, giving India lots of extra time
And most likely you will be down one very strategic German bomber
If you could actually invade Queensland, that might be another matter, but you can’t.

For awhile I thought you meant the 30% on Burma - also a bad idea

[JDOW]

Thanks for sharing!
All I can say is that I agree about Burma but don’t really agree about 54.

To me smashing 54 would be a big deal (not decisive but very nice) that exceeds disadvantage of being OOP or so. You obv. don’t want to invite that attack in general, otherwise you wouldn’t have put 2 DDs to block them off.
Also, if I would protect Caroline I would be in range to a harbour from 54 which is one of the main arguments to me to make that attack playable.

I of course know where you coming from which is, that 30% is not enough to risk losing the can opener.
However, imo a bomber is a lot but on the other hand just one piece of ~650 on the board. :)

In a nutshell to me attacking the 2 DDs is a reasonable risk the Axis can take.

Take it as a compliment :) After 5 turns I thought I could convert my (imo good position back then) safely into an economic edge. You demonstrated why you are back to back champion and showed me how to prevent that in a manner I have not experience so far from any opponent.

Now we have a fierce battle which might take for a long time which is on unknown ground to me. I genuinely think Axis can still make it but in case I am wrong I don’t want to miss a 30% shot which I am convinced makes a difference and is NOT a pyrrhus victory. Let’s see :)

As a true nerd I btw might manage to move tonight while being out of town:)

Talk later!
So I can hopefully slow the game less down than announced.

[boldfresh]

This game is awesome.  Gamer, you are living my dream right now…  :-P

[gamerman01]

@JDOW:

You obv. don’t want to invite that attack in general, otherwise you wouldn’t have put 2 DDs to block them off.

No, this way when you attack you are more likely to lose your bomber and get nothing
Sure, when I made the block I didn’t want you to attack, but now that you tell me you’re thinking about it then I look at it a lot more closely

[gamerman01]

I’ve read the whole message now….
thank you  :-)

Bottom line it all depends on what you decide… sure will be great for me if you try it and fail  :-D
It’s only 1 piece!

[boldfresh]

I think it will be a few more days at least for this move.

[JDOW]

Hey Gamerman,

did not work out on Saturday, wives had other plans in the evening:D

So as announced I will move on Tuesday.

[gamerman01]

It’s no problem at all of course, and thank you for the update
Wish you all the best, except in this game

[JDOW]

On it now. Frankly, you talked me off attacking the DDs at sz46 with the German bomber. If this was your intention, well done. If you genuinely think this is better for the Axis, thank you:D

the equation is: Is the gained advantage x 0.3 bigger than losing that bomber?
The answer after trying to simulate Japan was: Not sure.

Didn’t want to make decisions based on that and rather keep the tension then.

Moving now.

[JDOW]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 artilleries, 13 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from British
            1 armour moved from Rostov to Northwest Persia
                  Germans take Caucasus from Russians
                  Germans take Northwest Persia from British
            1 bomber moved from Philippines to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
            2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            2 fighters moved from Rostov to Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Ukraine
            13 armour, 10 artilleries, 11 infantry and 18 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
            1 armour moved from Szechwan to Sikang
            1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Sikang

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Sikang
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Sikang from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Volgograd
                Germans attack with 13 armour, 10 artilleries, 11 infantry and 18 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 13 armour, 10 artilleries, 11 infantry and 18 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 3 infantry
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for British: 3 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from France to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            2 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
            1 fighter moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            7 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 armour moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Sikang to Szechwan
            1 bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy
            2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany

Place Units - Germans
            2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Germany
            3 infantry placed in France
            2 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,6,5,5,3
            Germans collect 51 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 51 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs
            Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Holland Belgium: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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[boldfresh]

I would have gone for it no questions asked.