Unfortunately, the powers of both sides are not comparable to any of the games, so we can’t just play it out with side switching house rules (and other stuff too, but I’m just saying a new setup will need to be designed). The Soviets were even less modernised than in 1941. The real question is Germany. If Germany fights with the Soviets, (depends on what Hitler’s short term plan is) the outcome is uncertain, especially with Italy’s allegiance. It Germany fights against the Soviets, the Soviets would probably fall, especially if Japan can be convinced to jump into the war.
Baltimore vs Hipper
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I’m on vacation for Christmas 800 miles away in Kentucky, I have decided to have a versus series.
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Baltimore. Better fire control, and radar. Plus US crews were more experienced and had better damage control. Plus Baltimore class cruisers had a slightly heavier broadside and were 1 knot faster with a better overall armor protection scheme
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Baltimore. Better fire control, and radar. Plus US crews were more experienced and had better damage control. Plus Baltimore class cruisers had a slightly heavier broadside and were 1 knot faster with a better overall armor protection scheme
Shell quality pushed my vote to the Baltimore. Many German shells failed to detonate. The famous picture of a 8" shell from a German cruiser getting tossed off the Prince of Whales comes to mind. And didn’t a few of Graf Spee’s 11" shells fail to explode at River Plate?
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I don’t think the Hipper would have stood much of a chance either.
The Baltimore had thicker armour and that extra gun.
I did not read about fire control and radar, but am sure Polo Player knows. Did Marc say recently that the Hipper class had a problem with a weak stern? -
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Did Marc say recently that the Hipper class had a problem with a weak stern?
Weak sterns were, as I recall, a problem that affected several of Germany’s heavy warship classes. I can’t remember the examples I listed in my previous post on that subject, but I think there were a number of cases of stern damage and/or stern collapses among Germany’s heavy cruisers, battlecruisers and battleships. It may have been bad luck, or it may have been some kind of chronic design flaw.
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I believe the hoppers sister Prinz Eugene was damaged by a torpedo from a British sub, resulting in the need for a completely new stern. Don’t quote me on this tho… All from memory right now, :mrgreen:
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Thanks you two.
The Baltimore looked like a class leading ship from what I could make out from Wiki.