Excellent idea Garg! Sort of like the Robin Hood of Halloween!
Can I be Little John?
Personal arguements will end, right now
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So technically, it isn’t a dead language….
actually, technically, it is. there are no native speakers is sufficient, and necessary, for it to be considered a dead language.
also, while there are some who speak the language, there exist no native speaking communities, which would cause change and evolution of the language, as naturally happens with living languages.
Gotcha. I thought dead language meant no one spoke it on a regular basis. I was not aware it meant that there were no native speakers of the language.
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@F_alk:
So why do you think many languages hail from Latin? I’m thinking it might be because of the church myself. For a long time all services were held in latin and that may have unduly influenced the development of many languages.
Any other ideas?
Roman Empire.
It turned christian quite after it had conquered “the world” and even then there was the conflict between the greek and the roman part of the church.
It’s not the church, but the empire.Interesting thought process. I can’t argue with that too much, but I’d like to inject a thought for contemplation which is:
After the Roman Empire(s) fell, the church maintained the religion and practice which may have stymied independant developments of languages a little. At least until writters began writting the Bible in native tongues.
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And American! You can’t forget that, since those silly Brits refuse to convert to our style of English. :) (Humor!!!)
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After the Roman Empire(s) fell, the church maintained the religion and practice which may have stymied independant developments of languages a little. At least until writters began writting the Bible in native tongues.
I don’t think that the language of the “intellectuals” had too much influence on the people. Remember, that even many low-level priests were not able to speak latin and thus to understand what they actually “preached”.
Also, you should check when the bible was translated into native tongues. Greek is a native tongue and the language of earlier bible versions. There was a gothic version, even during the last west roman days.
I think you make the mistake of first saying “all christianity is latin”, and of overestimating the influence of a very few in a very feudal and class-aware society like it was in the Dark Ages.
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@F_alk:
After the Roman Empire(s) fell, the church maintained the religion and practice which may have stymied independant developments of languages a little. At least until writters began writting the Bible in native tongues.
I don’t think that the language of the “intellectuals” had too much influence on the people. Remember, that even many low-level priests were not able to speak latin and thus to understand what they actually “preached”.
Also, you should check when the bible was translated into native tongues. Greek is a native tongue and the language of earlier bible versions. There was a gothic version, even during the last west roman days.
I think you make the mistake of first saying “all christianity is latin”, and of overestimating the influence of a very few in a very feudal and class-aware society like it was in the Dark Ages.
Perhaps. I’ll have to look into it later a bit more.
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@marine36:
i took three years of Latin, and didnt learn squat, so in my opinion, its a dead language. :)
This from my fav brain dead Marine!
Who loves ya, m36!?! :)
Hoo-hah!
Any questions? See the capitalized word at the end of my first sentence above.
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@El:
@marine36:
i took three years of Latin, and didnt learn squat, so in my opinion, its a dead language. :)
This from my fav brain dead Marine!
Who loves ya, m36!?! :)
Hoo-hah!
Any questions? See the capitalized word at the end of my first sentence above.
HUA, not Hoo-hah, not how-you, just HUA. It’s really an acronym that means “Head-Up-Arse” wink Guess I shouldn’t poke fun at the doggies anymore, now that I’m going to be one, but I just can’t help myself!
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HUA, not Hoo-hah
Hmmm …. i really wonder about your priorities. You know and care about this, but keep mispelling Annan and others’ names (most often when there is an “a” as second vowel, which you replace by an “o”).
I find that scary.
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This is way off the subject, but I can’t resist.
Marines - Oo-rah
Army - Hoo-ah
Navy - Hoo-ya
AirForce - Hey, what’s up? or yeah or I Understand or alot of other things ;)It’s not an acronym for anything, militaries have always had sayings similar to these. In colonial times it was Hu-zah… It’s a grunt thing if you don’t get it, you aren’t meant to…
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Really Dzert? Ive always said Hoo-rah. :)
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@marine36:
Really Dzert? Ive always said Hoo-rah. :)
It’s OOH RAH, ya boot.
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wow, cant believe i never picked that up. :-o
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its ooo-rah! well it was in my company anyways. We had one guy that had singing lessons at some point in his civy life. you could make ooo-rah last for 2 3/4 min. He used to yell it out of loud speakers when we were driving through small desert holes. fun times!!! God i miss the corps, i think i might go back in for another 4, anybody else miss it?
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Several threads are currently under review and will be throughout today and tomorrow.
Everyone, PLAY NICE!!!
What makes this site great, is the debate, not the name calling.
And everyone, STAY ON TOPIC!
I’m considering locking all threads that go off topic and do not return to on-topic discussion, but that seems a bit drastic and rash, since so many topics do go off topic.
But this is just a little warning to everyone, if you can’t discuss things in an adult way, then you are going to see some massive lockings.
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@F_alk:
That might change the  moment the catholic church declares the celibate as obsolete :) …. and the Vatican is changing the language. There are latin words for car, TV etc etc.
How do you say, “Where’s the remote?”, in Latin?
Is there a question mark in the Latin text?
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As for the Hoo-_____! debate… I guess it depends on where you trained.Kinda like the word “wash.”
In this region SE Indiana, SW Ohio, N Kentucky it is pronounced “wash.”
In the portions of the rural South (USA) it is pronounced “WAR-sh.”
In Boston and much of Massachusetts(USA) it is pronounced “WAR-sh.” Just ask US Senator Ted Kennedy.Hmm. Maybe I’m behind the language evolutionary curve.
Again, as for the Hoo-___ ! debate, I say…
Hoo-Dey! Hoo-Dey!
Hoo-Dey think gonna beat them Bengals?
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@Major:
its ooo-rah! well it was in my company anyways. We had one guy that had singing lessons at some point in his civy life. you could make ooo-rah last for 2 3/4 min. He used to yell it out of loud speakers when we were driving through small desert holes. fun times!!! God i miss the corps, i think i might go back in for another 4, anybody else miss it?
The Corps? Nope, that is one branch I never made it into. Air Force, Army and Army National Guard here… and I NEVER made it out of training units! I was either IN training or DOING the training. Talk about a dreadful way to do your military time!
I had some good times back then. But alas, my aging rounding body is NOT what it was when I was in my teens and early 20’s (hell my body did nto hold up even then, at least my knees, which is why I got out!) And I am sure this smoking, drinking, 36 year old could not pass a PT test even with the aid of a moped for the run! LOL
I WOULD get to sleep in later than I do now though, so there is always that trade off :-P
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@Major:
its ooo-rah! well it was in my company anyways. We had one guy that had singing lessons at some point in his civy life. you could make ooo-rah last for 2 3/4 min. He used to yell it out of loud speakers when we were driving through small desert holes. fun times!!! God i miss the corps, i think i might go back in for another 4, anybody else miss it?
Yeah, I miss it. Until I became an alchoholic.
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2 threads were locked tonight for being off topic.
I have no problem locking more if you guys can’t debate like adults or drift SO far off topic that the initial thread topic is unidentifiable.
As Mods we simply don’t have time to babysit every thread/post and user.
I’ve all but removed myself from much of Gen Discussion (political, religious, foreign policy, etc topics) for the past few weeks because all the threads seem to end up the same way.
Attack the points in a post and debate the topic but DON’T attack the user.
Thank you,
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2 threads were locked tonight for being off topic.
Sorry to have had to be the one to call those 2 threads to your attention Darth. But I simply felt that they had both gotten very out of hand. So if anyone here wants to persecute someone, I am the guilty party for doing a “report to moderator” on those two threads.
Thank you for handling the moderation of the various threads quickly and professionally. Speaking for myself (and I am sure for many others) it is greatly appreciated.
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We’re not going to let up here on these topics guys. When they violate forum rules, action will be taken. Stay on topic. Don’t attack other people. Be civilized.
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