Best come from behind victories?

[Gargantua]

Lol Yeah?

Get ready for a book report Larrie, we just accused Cmndr Jen of lying.  She’s going to dig deep…

[jim010]

I once took Washington.

I was going for Sealion, but the initial opening for me sucked, and my opponent defended UK properly.  He stacked up against the Germans with Russia recognizing that my odds of surviving with much weren’t good.  Since he wasn’t concerned with Sealion anymore, he put everything in the Pacific with the US.

I bought my TTs anyways (I saw something he didn’t) G2.  I took out what remaining UK ships there were at the cost of some more planes.  There were now no Allied ships in the Atlantic.  Still Sealion was going down the toilet now having lost more planes.  Still, he still had to buy defensively with the UK.

G3 I moved to Gib with the whole TT fleet loaded with 26 ground units.  With my opponent having gone all in on the Pacific side, there were only a few ground units he could put in Washington and every plane he could get there from the Pacific (no match for 26 ground units).

Most importantly, he had NO ships to block my German fleet.  G4 it was all over.

Moral of the story, don’t get cocky and turn your back on a power you think is down on its luck.  I’ve learned this lesson myself.

[Cow]

wait… so he didn’t spam units on america to retake his capital? you only get a surge of income for a round… but that is not a big deal cos all those units you drop should be dead. plus if he pulls air from the pacific he can hammer out your fleet too.

most of the time, I don’t do much in the atlantic either unless germany buys naval for usa to kill. still defending usa is not hard. you can spam 10 inf there and 10 inf/arty in central in the event of the worst case scenario.

[PeterPaaPan]

Not if Japan hasnt declared war ? Maybe they waitet and max was 6 units on that side ?

PPP

[Jennifer]

@Gargantua:

Lol Yeah?

Get ready for a book report Larrie, we just accused Cmndr Jen of lying.  She’s going to dig deep…

Musta been one of the half dozen we tossed on the game board to make the game more playable… (New Zealand was one too, but that I know was not an original VC.)

[Jennifer]

@Cow:

wait… so he didn’t spam units on america to retake his capital? you only get a surge of income for a round… but that is not a big deal cos all those units you drop should be dead. plus if he pulls air from the pacific he can hammer out your fleet too.

most of the time, I don’t do much in the atlantic either unless germany buys naval for usa to kill. still defending usa is not hard. you can spam 10 inf there and 10 inf/arty in central in the event of the worst case scenario.

That may be true most of the time, but I see what Jim’s saying.  America was sucker punched, he probably didnt have many ground units because he didnt see it coming until too late.

[Gargantua]

There was nothing he could do…

at best, production is 9 units.

And there is a good chance he could sack the capital with HALF of his force, and use the other half to block CUS.

America without an income, then CRUNCHED by Japan, is hooped.  It should have been easy, with no Air to defend it’s fleet.

Even if they managed a recapture after 2 turns, they were still screwed.  No income,  and Japan would have been all over them with everything.

Game.

Better yet, two major factories would have been SACKED.  And 3 turns is long enough that all ground units like AA and inf, would be too far away to come back quickly enough…

LOL, wiped out.

[jim010]

As Jen said, it was a sucker punch.  And no, I did not attack with Japan until turn 4.  The US did not see what I was upto until I moved to Gib.  But at that point, there was nothing he could do.  No blocker (and he needed 2 blockers) and no way of building enough units to stave off 26 germans, shore bombards and 2 aircraft.

It is not a game I think I will ever be able to repeat.

[Jennifer]

I’m sure you will, if Canadian Shield could be done a few times before peeps caught on, so will the American Sucker Punch. ^_~

[warwinner]

Sacking Washington is always something to be proud of  :-D it’s only gotten more difficult with the rule changes.

[Eetion]

The real crap thing about a theoretical blocker, is that Italy and Germany can work together. Since You can reach S. Zone 102 with Italien bombers from Normandy on I3 with and airbase placed there G3 from Germany which leaves germany free pathway to Washington?

[jim010]

I’ve thought about making it an actual tactic using Italy as a deblocker.  But the US should be able to put enough in Washington and sz101 to ensure that it is a pipe dream.

I always watch for it, but I’ve never been given a chance to do it again.

[Jennifer]

Yes, but if USA does that, they are taking from somewhere else.  However, Italy isn’t really losing much tying up a bomber until round 4….

[Cow]

wait even so a last minute income could get a naval defense for east usa… why didn’t he do that? If you got a 26 man drop… what do you have for naval? bship cruiser carrier 2 air dd sub at most? That’s 7 units only. usa should have 2 fighters nearby so he can get a decent defense last minute.  like carrier sub 3 fighter. so defending would be 5 fighter carrier sub… 7 units.

uk could suicide his remaining air in range on german fleet to pray for a tilt or hit.

[Gargantua]

In a game of anniversary, my team was kicking the axis’s ass.

The british were all over Italy and Germany, with a wicked bombing campaign, and the Russians were holding.

Japan was losing to me in the pac.

Then suddenly… Britian builds ALL bombers, and a factory in Norway against my advice…  Germany spends all it’s money on tech, and scores Paratroopers…  UK gets sacked with no possibility of re-capture.

I tried to compensate with America, but it was too late, and then the Russians folded…

Game.

Not the -best- but definetly one of the better one’s I’ve seen.

[jim010]

@Cow:

wait even so a last minute income could get a naval defense for east usa… why didn’t he do that? If you got a 26 man drop… what do you have for naval? bship cruiser carrier 2 air dd sub at most? That’s 7 units only. usa should have 2 fighters nearby so he can get a decent defense last minute.  like carrier sub 3 fighter. so defending would be 5 fighter carrier sub… 7 units.

uk could suicide his remaining air in range on german fleet to pray for a tilt or hit.

What I meant to say was if a US player is aware of the possible hit right at the beginning of the game, it can be pretty easy to defend.

In the game that was played, he moved everything to Hawaii.  On turn 3, when he realized the threat, there was nothing to be done.  No planes made it back.

I did not claim this was a repeatable strategy.

[Jennifer]

And we are now aware what I buy 6 warships for the atlantic on round 2…

[Gargantua]

Cow,

Remember your recent game against Seththe Newb?

Even with a FULL US income, and foreknowledge of the possibility, he wasn’t able to muster a decent defence against a similar force.

[Cow]

yeah well japan had to suicide on usa to make it happen, this is different.

it is not 6 war ships. it is 5 with 2 flyin in from hawaii or hollywood. makes it to central, get the carrier bam it goes in the water right?

[Cow]

As for my most epic comeback. I was axis. Berlin was turtled up with allies surrounding it in aa50. Japan was ready to attack moscow next round, I just had to survive berlin one more round. Rome was American

Allies all in berlin, uk goes first with about 60% odds. uk fails, usa goes with about 80% odds… fails. Germany scores improved artilly and blows up taking back territories. Japan goes to hit russia to end the game, with 1.5 tanks for every russian inf and 6 fighters for his 2… Japan loses hard.

Anyway 5 rounds later the game is still going the battles still raging. Germany blew up in europe to make 10 inf/arty a turn. italy only made 3 inf.

Japan with armor units to match infantry just couldn’t take russia every round 14 armor coming in hot, just no dice. Then the all in on berlin happens one more time… back to back uk / usa. usa draws with germany, berlin was empty.

then finally Japan took russia. uk failed berlin, usa got it. Meanwhile in the pacific. Japan in desperation attacked hollywood 1 armor and LRA that it discovered and took hollywood. USA had two armor on east usa, and japan defended.

that was epic.

I was rolling 3 tech rolls for about 10 rounds with japan and finally got something lol, perfect timing cos I just bought bombers on japan last turn.