Botider (Axis) vs Jen (Allies) G40A2 +NO -Tech Gm3

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    You are correct, one of the destroyers that was on the American stack shouldnt have been, it should have been blocking the Japanese from SZ 6.  ^_^

    Bo_v_Jen_03_06Brussia.AAM

  • 2007 AAR League

    A US5 NCM after Russia6?? Hmmmmm….
    Was it in your original NCMs (I haven’t looked)?

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    I believe so, since the idea was to isolate the Japanese navy and thus, Japan would take 4 convoy damage no matter what happened this round.  (You could move the ships into SZ 6 during NCM, but could not kill the submarines because it is non-combat, not combat.)

    I dunno, I don’t generally look at the Pacific when I do Russia.  I look at N. Africa, Europe, Russia (of course) and China.

  • 2007 AAR League

    It’s not a problem… I was just hasslin’ ya…  :wink:

  • 2007 AAR League

    and here i thought aa50 was complicated with sea zones… whew! that pacific mosaic will take a while to figure out. and when u.s. starts pouring money into the ocean, it gets deep in a hurry. hard to believe i’d ever feel sorry for japan, but in this case, the onslaught in unrelenting. tojo sends frantic message to the reich office in berlin: “hurry up, will ya?”

    this is the best i can do… and i have no idea what i’m trying to do except stay alive…

    japan 6


    purchase
    2 air bases, 2 ac, ftr, inf… spend $69

    combat
    sz19 (ca)
    sub sz21
    ftr, tbmb sz20


    dice…
    sz19
    sub @ 2, ftr, @ 3, tbmb @ 4
    DiceRolls: 1@2 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 31@2: (1)1@3: (3)1@4: (3)
    vs
    ca @ 3
    DiceRolls: 1@3; Total Hits: 01@3: (6)

  • 2007 AAR League

    oh, my… target practice. poor aussie doesn’t know what hit him… kinda like i feel right now. there’s a long, left hook headed toward my jaw, and i have no idea its source.  8-)

    noncombat
    inf sumatra / arm siam > java via trn sz41 > sz37 > sz42
    ftr, sub, 2 dd sz41 > sz42
    ftr kwangsi > sz42
    ftr, tbmb sz20 > java
    dd sz20 > sz42
    ftr, tbmb sz19 > sz6
    3 sub, 2 ac, 4 dd, 2 ca, 2 bb sz20 > sz6
    inf, rtl kiangsi > japan via trn sz20 > sz6
    6 inf, 2 mech, aa amur > korea
    2 arm amur > yakut
    ftr, tbmb amur > korea
    ftr. tbmb anhwe > sz6
    ftr, 3 tbmb japan > sz6
    ftr japan > korea
    inf, rtl kwangsi > kiangsi
    rtl hunan > anhwe
    inf kweichow > anhwe
    inf, rtl chahar > anhwe
    2 inf, rlt suiyuan > chahar

    deployment
    air base > java
    air base > korea
    2 ac > sz6
    inf, ftr > japan

    collect
    $61 +/- 5 = $61

    Bo_v_Jen_03_06Cjapan.AAM

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    USA:

    Buy(78)

    • 9 Destroyers
    • 1 Submarine

    Combat Moves:

    Destroyer from SZ 18 to SZ 19
    4 Fighters, Tactical Bomber from SZ 17 to SZ 19
    Strategic Bomber from Iwo Jima to Japan - SBR
    4 Infantry, 2 Armor from Hawaii to Carolines
    2 Infantry, Artillery, armor from Iwo Jima to Carolines
    4 Crusiers, 1 Battleship Bombardment of Carolines
    Submarines in SZ 6 disengage to SZ 21

    Combat:

    Carolines:
    Attacker:
    DiceRolls: 5@1 2@2 7@3 1@4; Total Hits: 55@1: (4, 6, 3, 3, 4)2@2: (2, 3)7@3: (5, 3, 2, 6, 3, 5, 4)1@4: (2)
    Defender:
    DiceRolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    SZ 19:
    Attacker:
    DiceRolls: 1@2 4@3 1@4; Total Hits: 31@2: (3)4@3: (3, 3, 5, 6)1@4: (4)
    Defender:
    DiceRolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 01@1: (5)

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Japan SBR Run:
    AAGun
    DiceRolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 01@1: (4)
    Bomber
    DiceRolls: 1@6; Total Hits: 11@6: (5)
    (+2)

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Results:

    Japan bombed for 7 Damage
    SZ 19 cleared without loss
    Carolines taken with loss of infantry

    NCMs:

    Destroyer from SZ 17 to SZ 19
    10 Destroyers from SZ 17 to SZ 21
    Destroyer from SZ 22 to SZ 21
    4 Fighters, Tactical Bomber from SZ 21
    4 Destroyers from SZ 26 to SZ 33
    Destroyer from SZ 10 to SZ 25
    Destroyer, 6 Submarines from SZ 10 to SZ 26
    2 Strategic Bombers from W. USA to Hawaii
    Strategic Bomber from Japan to Guam
    2 Infantry Brazil to FWA
    Transport from SZ 86 to SZ 83
    Cruiser from SZ 86 to SZ 91

    Build: 6 Destroyers in SZ 101
    Build: 3 Destroyers, Submarine in SZ 10

    Collect: 25 NOs, 53 IPC TT = 78 IPC

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    China:

    Buy(11)

    • 1 Infantry
    • 2 Artillery

    Combat Moves:

    Infantry from SHE to HOP
    Infantry from SHE to SUI
    12 Infantry, 2 Artillery from YUN to HUN
    Infantry from YUN to KWE
    Infantry from YUN to KWA

    Results:

    SUI, HOP, KWE, HUN, KWA twol, mt

    NCM:

    FIghter from SIK to SHE

    BUild: Infantry, 2 Artillery in HUN

    Collect: 18 IPC

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    England:

    Buy(7)

    • 1 Armor
    • Save 1

    Combat Moves:

    Infantry from Yunnan to FIC
    Armor from Yunnan to Hong Kong

    Results: FIC/Hong Kong twol, mt

    NCM:

    Infantry from Burma to Sham State
    3 Infantry from India to BUrma
    5 Infantry, MI, Armor from W. India to E. Persia
    Infatnry from N. PErsia to C. Persia
    2 Armor from Yunnan to Hun
    Infantry from Yunnan to Sham State
    2 Fighters from Yunnan to India

    Build: Armor in India

    Collect: 1 Saved + 10 TT = 11 IPC

  • 2007 AAR League

    on the sbr of japan… my 2 japanese ftrs would have defended against the bombing run since your bomber was unescorted over tokyo. you can:

    • scratch the damage if you would not have flown the mission under those conditions, or
    • roll my ftrs and see if the bomber is shot down… they hit on 2.

    you’re call.

  • 2007 AAR League

    • your call
  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Australia:

    Buy(15)

    • Save 15

    Combat Moves:

    NCM:

    2 Fighters, Carrier, Cruiser, Submarine, Destroyer, Transport from SZ 56 to SZ 54
    Fighter from W. Australia to Queensland
    2 Destroyers from SZ 62 to SZ 54
    Submarine from SZ 47 to SZ 54
    3 Infantry, 2 Artillery from W. Australia to S. Australia
    AA Gun from New South Wales to Queensland

    Collect: 15 Saved + 10 TT = 25 IPC


    @Botider:

    on the sbr of japan… my 2 japanese ftrs would have defended against the bombing run since your bomber was unescorted over tokyo. you can:

    • scratch the damage if you would not have flown the mission under those conditions, or
    • roll my ftrs and see if the bomber is shot down… they hit on 2.

    you’re call.

    Scratching, wasn’t aware of escorts.  So if I had brought 4 fighters with me, you could not have escorted, or would have not elected to escort?

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

  • 2007 AAR League

    @Cmdr:

    Scratching, wasn’t aware of escorts.  So if I had brought 4 fighters with me, you could not have escorted, or would have not elected to escort?

    from alpha+2 rules (that you sent me, by the way)  :wink:
    SBR procedure:
    • Escorts (fighters flying with the strategic bombers) fire @ 1, and interceptor (defending fighters) casualties are immediately removed.
    • Strategic bombers fire @ 1 and interceptors fire @ 2. Remove bomber and interceptor casualties (escorts may be taken as casualties only after all bombers are eliminated).
    • Surviving bombers are assigned a specific target (IC, airbase or naval base) if more than one type is in the territory.
    • The target fires its AA defenses at the attacking aircraft - @1
    • Surviving bombers attack their target, looking for the highest number possible.

    The bolded part, to me, makes sbrs almost an afterthought in this game. it’s just too risky if there are fighters present, even if you can send escorts. all it takes is one hit to take down your strategic bomber. now, sbrs against naval and air bases are another matter, and if there aren’t defending aircraft, you can do some major damage there… taking away that extra movement point is critical, especially in an ocean as large as the pacific.

    Your choice noted… Japan IC has no damage.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Yes.  I knew there was a reason I just didn’t engage in SBRs anymore…despite them actually being profitable.

  • 2007 AAR League

    italy 6


    purchase
    4 inf, rtl, arm, 4 trn… spend $50

    combat
    fea (inf)
    inf sudan
    tbmb trans-jordan

    southwest africa ( )
    arm south africa blitzes and back

    dice…
    fea
    inf @ 1, tbmb @ 3
    DiceRolls: 1@1 1@3; Total Hits: 01@1: (3)1@3: (5)
    vs
    inf @ 2
    DiceRolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (5)

  • 2007 AAR League

    fea
    inf @ 1, tbmb @ 3
    DiceRolls: 1@1 1@3; Total Hits: 11@1: (5)1@3: (3)
    vs
    inf @ 2
    DiceRolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)

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