On UK 1 they build 9 Infantry
On UK2 they build another 10+ infantry
That gives them 21 plus any that might come over from Canada ( Tank and Infantry)
and 4 planes.
How can Germany invade on G3 with that defending?
The only chance is G2.
how about for UK1 they build two fighters and three men and land the tac from Gib on London?. its a bonus if they get the Canuck armor and troop
G1 build CV, DD, SS.
Most efficient defense with ipcs available.
But…
If UK builds 20 inf (over first two turns) + 2 Inf + inf/tank (from Canada) + Gilb Tac + 3 fighters (11 hits 1st round) + whatever aa gun does
Germany can maybe still take it with 9 inf, 4 Art, 5 Tanks, 6-8 fighters/Tac, 1 Bomb + 1 hit from BB 1st round. (11 hits 1st round) but it is too close to risk.
So Germany must build 2 TT’s round 1 and use the CA to block Gilb fleet.
Don’t forget the 1 inf, 1 arm, 1 fig from alexandria that can get up there. 8-)
Don’t forget the 1 inf, 1 arm, 1 fig from alexandria that can get up there. 8-)
That’s something I don’t think I’ve heard before. They have the movement points to get to England in two turns. Could they (tpt w/ground troops) get through the Med though? They would have to be in sz 92 end of UK1. Sz 92 is not exactly safe from the axis.
Thats why G2 sealion if the only viable option.
The Labrador DD and AP can be sunk, with one SS ( coin flip admittedly)
@WILD:
Don’t forget the 1 inf, 1 arm, 1 fig from alexandria that can get up there. 8-)
That’s something I don’t think I’ve heard before. They have the movement points to get to England in two turns. Could they (tpt w/ground troops) get through the Med though? They would have to be in sz 92 end of UK1. Sz 92 is not exactly safe from the axis.
Is is with a cruiser block in SZ 94. Only way for the germans to hit it would be to land planes in africa on G2, out of range for G3 sea lion.
@WILD:
Don’t forget the 1 inf, 1 arm, 1 fig from alexandria that can get up there. 8-)
That’s something I don’t think I’ve heard before. They have the movement points to get to England in two turns. Could they (tpt w/ground troops) get through the Med though? They would have to be in sz 92 end of UK1. Sz 92 is not exactly safe from the axis.
Is is with a cruiser block in SZ 94. Only way for the germans to hit it would be to land planes in africa on G2, out of range for G3 sea lion.
Also, if the transport by the UK survives, it can join up with the transport from Egypt and load up two French infantry from North Africa which then unload on UK on French turn 2.
Look how distorted UK1 becomes just because of the threat of Sealion.
Italy rules the Med, for instance.
All this before Germany even commits to the TT purchase G2.
Looks like a win for the Axis, regardless.
How? Italy is going to take egypt no matter what you do for a few turns, and you still cost them the no ships in the med NO. On top of that, to keep there transports at egypt safe they have to move there fleet out of position. The UK can keep the carrier and/or destroyer and transport there, use it to liberate egypt, use it to strike at italy or where ever they decide. Yes it hurts you in Africa, but income wise the axis need Italy to hit the 30 mark to remain competitive.
After looking closely at this G3 Sealion, it does have more flexibility than my G2 plan.
UK cant escape unless they buy crap first to prepare or they lose. Germany gets to play “on the button” as they say in poker… the last to act after seeing what others do, but holding the decisions first.
This is his plan in a manner of which is more readable.
GERMANY: Turn 1
Purchase:
1 CV, 1 SS, 1 AP
save
$1
Land Combat Movements:
Holland to Normandy: 1 inf, 1 art
Romania to Yugoslavia:1 inf, 1 tank
Slovakia to Yugoslavia:2 inf, 1 tank
South Germany to Yugoslavia:2 inf
West Germany to France:2 inf, 1 art, 4 Mech
Holland to France: 3 inf, 3 tanks
South Germany to France: 2 tanks
Poland to Yugoslavia: 1 Tank
Key land battle results:
Battle of France
5 Inf, 4 Mech, 1 Art, 5 tanks vs. 7 Inf, 2 art, 2 tanks, 1 Fighter
R1
Attack
5 Inf, 4 Mech, 1 art, 5 tanks = 27 - 5 hits
Defend
7 Inf, 2 art, 2 tank, 1 Fighter = 28 - 5 hits
R2
Attack
4 Mech, 1 art, 5 tanks = 22 - 4 hits
Defend
2 Inf, 2 art, 2 tanks, 1 Fighter = 18 - 3 hits
R3
Attack
1 Mech, 1 art, 5 tanks = 19 - 3 hits
Defend
2 tanks, 1 Fighter = 10 - 2 hits
75% battle for Germany
Battle of Yugoslavia:
5 Inf, 3 tanks vs. 5 Inf
R1
Attack
5 Inf, 3 tanks = 14 - 2 hits
Defend
5 Inf = 10 - 2 hits
R2
Attack
3 Inf, 3 tanks = 12 - 2 hits
Defend
3 Inf = 6 - 1 hit
R3
Attack
2 Inf, 3 tanks = 11 - 2 hits
Defend
1 Inf = 2 - 0 hit
98% battle for Germany
Sea Zone 106 Attacks:
From Sea Zone 117: 1 SS
From Sea Zone 118: 1 SS
Battle of sz106
2 SS vs 1 DD, 1 AP
Attack
2 SS = 4 - 1 hit
Defend
1 DD = 2 - 0 hit
78% battle for Germany
Sea Zone 109 Attacks:
From Holland: 1 Fighter
From Sea Zone 108: 1 SS
Battle of sz109
1 SS, 1 Fighter vs. 1 DD, 1 AP
Attack
1 SS, 1 Fighter = 5 - 1 hit
Defend
1 DD = 2 - 0 hit
88% battle for Germany
I’ll lose the SS, as I didn’t lose one in sz106
Sea Zone 111 attacks:
From Norway: 1 Fighter
From Sea Zone 124: 1 SS
From West Germany: 1 Tactical Bomber
From Germany: 1 Bomber
Battle of sz111
1 SS, 1 Fighter, 1 tactical, 1 Bomber vs. 1 BB, 1 CA
R1
Attack
1 SS, 1 Fighter, 1 tactical, 1 Bomber = 13 - 2 hits
Defend
1 CA, 1 BB = 7 - 1 hit
R2
Attack
1 Fighter, 1 tactical, 1 Bomber = 11 - 2 hits
Defend
1 damaged BB = 4 - 1 hit
90% battle for Germany
Sea Zone 112 Attacks:
From Sea Zone 113: 1 BB, 1 CA
From West Germany: 1 Fighter
Battle of Sea Zone 112
1 CR, 1 BB, 1 Fighter vs. 2 CA
Attack
1 CA, 1BB, 1 Fighter = 10 - 2 hits
Defend
2 CA = 6 - 1 hit
96% battle for Germany
Sea Zone 110 Attacks:
From Sea Zone 103: 1 SS
From West Germany : 1 Fighter, 2 Tactical
Battle of sz110
1 SS, 1 Fighter, 2 tactical vs. 1 DD, 1 BB
R1
Attack
1 SS, 1 Fighter, 2 tactical = 12 - 2 hits
Defend
1 DD, 1 BB = 6 - 1 hit
R2
Attack
1 Fighter, 2 tactical = 10 - 2 hits
Defend
1 Damaged BB = 4 - 1 hit
93% battle for Germany
Non Combat Movement:
Germany to West Germany
6 Inf, 4 art
South Germany to West Germany
4 Inf
South Germany to Germany
1 art
Sea Zone 113 to Sea Zone 115
1 AP ( load from Poland 2 Inf to Finland)
Romania to Bulgaria
1 Inf
Norway to Finland
2 Inf
Sea Zone111 to West Germany
1 Tactical, 1 Bomber
Sea Zone 110 to West Germany
2 Tactical
Sea Zone 109 to Sea Zone 112
1 Fighter
Place
1 CV, 1 TT, 1 SS in Sea Zone 112
Collect
$64
The nice thing is Germany on her G2 turn can build 9 more AP’s giving them 11 total and landing on G3:
11 Inf, 8 tanks and 3 artillery 4 fighters, 3 tactical bombers, 1 bomber and 1 BB, 1 CA
Against:
23 UK infantry 3 fighters, 1 tactical bomber, 1 tank
Germany wins 85.7 to 13.3%
If i made a mistake and UK has 24 infantry, then the odds are 78% to 20%
There’s a 40% chance that you will lose or draw one or more of the following battles: France, Z110, 111, 112
Thats really high!
@Imperious:
Thats really high!
40% chance you’ll lose or 60% chance you’ll win?
If either Brit BB survives, it can kill the German fleet. If Z112 goes badly, Germany can’t sealion until g3. If France doesn’t fall, Germany builds 3 less transports G2
40% chance you’ll lose or 60% chance you’ll win?
Yea. If you combine all these 90% attacks and assign a 40% cumulative to them, its the best you can hope for.
Now many attacks can get you 85%+
The 40% chance is one battle goes wrong. This plan can survive one miss and will win
It cant survive not killing one of the Uk BB’s. That causes uk to have enough on UK1 to kill SZ 112 fleet.
I may alter this a bit.
It occured to me to change a couple details (b/c of bugaboo!)
But as IL said - I can buy the CV and watch what happens.
Well please do it quick. This strategy is the holy grail of AAE40.
Post the blocks on UK1 and UK 2
And always use low luck because nobody can make claims about statistical variations or %.
I may alter this a bit.
It occured to me to change a couple details (b/c of bugaboo!)
But as IL said - I can buy the CV and watch what happens.
Only da wife is allowed to call me that Jim! :evil:
But I guess that just means I have to find more ways to counter. I don’t see this ever becoming like the India crush, maybe the turn 1 pearl, but never the India crush.
