AAG40 FAQ

[gamerman01]

@dcandf5:

sorry guys another thought just hit me.
I understand that destroyers cancel the surprise strike and submerse abilities of a submarine,but does the dd have to be present in combat?
e.g. i have 1 destroyer and 1 battleship going up against 1 sub. if the sub gets lucky,rolls a one and if i chose to take my destroyer as a casualty,does the submarine sort of recover its surprise strike and submerse ability since the destroyer has been destroyed?meaning that it now attacks my battleship first and if it hits,it cant fire back.

Yes, as soon as you lose your last destroyer, in the next round of combat the sub gets all of its special abilities back.  Submersible, and surprise strike…  As soon as you lose that destroyer, the sub can submerge the next round before you can fire again with the battleship.  If you really want to get the sub, you maybe should damage your battleship so it can’t get away.

[gamerman01]

@amagicgiraffe:

hello people i am new here so excuse me if i ask an obvious question :-D
since a submarine and air units cannot attack each other without destroyer what happen if say i had a submarine vs a fiter and a cruiser. i was the attacker and i scored a hit with my submarine. my opponent wanted to save his planes as he was preparing for a big attack on my capital. he chose his cruiser as a casualty. then,  the fighterr missed on his turn. what happens when a surviving submarine and fighter is in pplay. since they cannot fire at each other.

Newbie questions welcome.
You’re right, subs can only hit other naval vessels and never aircraft.  Once you are down to only subs vs. aircraft, the battle is over.

also:
how does an aircraft carrier move with respect to the planes on it moving as well? since aircraft carriers have 2 move space. do they add 2 move spaces to the planes on them? i am lost here. :(

The best way to think about this rule is that planes must take off from carriers at the beginning of the move.  Carriers never extend the movement beyond 4 of the planes. (Never is a strong word.  Here is the exception: If you have an ally’s planes on your carrier, your carrier could move up to 2 spaces during your turn, carrying the ally’s fighters.  Then on your ally’s turn, he can fly the 4 spaces with his fighters.  In one game turn, the fighters could have traveled 6 spaces.  But the saying holds true that a fighter can never ever move more than 4 spaces during ITS turn (on that power’s turn).  And of course, this is not considering the long range aircraft tech.  IIRC it’s 5 spaces with LRA, so then those fighters can’t fly more than 5 during it’s respective power’s turn, etc.)

with that said:
another question.i do not understand what is the significance of the aircraft carrier. my friend says that they’re advantages are for defending and if there are two fighters loaded onto it,the defense values of the carrier and planes are 4-4-2,being quite good.he also said that they allow planes to land.is that it? i dont find them very useful compared to like 2 destroyers.

Oh my goodness.  :-)  Your friend is on to something.  Carriers are AWESOME.  There are so many advantageous characteristics of aircraft carriers, I know I’ll forget some.  Here are a few:

1. Allow your fighters to defend your fleet.  If you already have fighters, adding a carrier adds that 4-4-2 all for the price of 16.  That is far and away better than any other naval purchase (if you already have the fighters and they’re not needed to defend land)  Fighters costing 10 and defending at 4 are vastly superior to destroyers costing 8 and defending on a 2, in terms of fleet defense.  To get fighters defending at sea, you must have carriers.
2. Add a tremendous amount of attacking options for your fighters.  Your fighters have to have a safe place to land.  You can’t land on territories that you didn’t own at the beginning of your turn.  Carriers are floating islands for your fighters.  1 Carrier could service 4 fighters, effectively.  Imagine 2 on the carrier take off and attack and then land elsewhere.  2 fighters from elsewhere attack and land on the carrier.  For maximum defense, you want 2 fighters per carrier.  For maximum attack, you want 4.  Having 3 per carrier is a nice in-between strategy.
3. You can play catch.  Multiple carriers can create synergies.  Apparently you’ve never played anyone who knows how to use this, because if you did you wouldn’t be saying you don’t find carriers useful.
4. In Global 1940 carriers are capital ships that can absorb a hit without sinking.  So you’re getting 2 hits for 16 bucks (same as destroyers) but yet you have all the capabilities of carriers to carry fighters.  If your carrier(s) survive the battle, they repair for free at a naval base, so right there they have a huge leg up on destroyers.
5. In Alpha2 version, Tac bombers can strat bomb bases.  Carriers can get those tacs in position to bomb more bases, or pick them up when they’re done.

Not an exhaustive list, because I am exhausted.  In short, carriers are one of the most useful units in the game, and every good A&A player knows how to exploit their abilities to the max.  Carriers = options.  Options = advantage.
Cheers  :-)

[amagicgiraffe]

arggh i see now :-D. carriers have many uses.thank you!
but i still need some clarification for the first question though,the seazone has a fighter and a submarine after the combat.lets say the situation was reversed, the guy with the fighter was the attacker and the guy with the sub was the defender. Does the player with the fighter retreat his fighter to any friendly adjacent place(friendly land and seazones) like how it does when a carrier carrying it is gone?

[Krieghund]

The one space movement for a fighter after its carrier is sunk only applies to defending fighters.  When attacking, fighters use their remaining movement after the battle in noncombat movement to land.

[amagicgiraffe]

About my very first question about the battle between the fighter & sub… If they both remain in the seazone…does the fighter get 4 moving space from that seazone at HIS turn?i thought fighters MUST have a space to land AT THE end of anyones turn and cant be left floating in the middle of a seazone. thanks guys

[Krieghund]

The only way that a fighter could be defending in a sea zone without a carrier is if it was scrambled into the sea zone.  After the battle, it would return to the territory it was scrambled from.  If that territory was captured by the enemy, the fighter would have one space to find another place to land.

[JimmyHat]

And also in your original example you had a CA FTR vs SUB.  The ftr would not get to roll because there is no dd present in the battle, so it cannot hit the sub.

[Jennifer]

@JimmyHat:

And also in your original example you had a CA FTR vs SUB.  The ftr would not get to roll because there is no dd present in the battle, so it cannot hit the sub.

He probably also meant an Aircraft Carrier not a Cruiser.  Cruisers = CA (don’t ask me why, there’s no A in Cruiser far as I can see…) and AC is Aircraft Carrier…

[JimmyHat]

CV is carrier, not AC.  AC is air conditioning…or alternating current.

Still, if using a CV and a ftr vs a sub, the ftr still won’t get to fight against the sub because there’s no dd present.

[Jennifer]

Screw dat.  They wanna call it a carrier vehicle, fine, but I’m calling it an Aircraft Carrier or A.C.  Not really sure what it’s an SS for Submarine either, shouldn’t it just be S?  Same for Destroyer?  BB makes sense, Battle Boat…close enough to Battleship afai-concerned.

[kcdzim]

@Cmdr:

Screw dat.  They wanna call it a carrier vehicle, fine, but I’m calling it an Aircraft Carrier or A.C.  Not really sure what it’s an SS for Submarine either, shouldn’t it just be S?  Same for Destroyer?  BB makes sense, Battle Boat…close enough to Battleship afai-concerned.

It’s US naval ship class designation, and AC stands for auxilliary-collier. Any ship starting with “A” indicates auxilliary, I believe.

There’s no reason to call a carrier CA since it’s an unclear abbreviation, and if you call it AC most people will probably still understand what you mean , but since there is an official abbreviation that most people with knowledge of ww2 history will use, well, arguably it makes sense to keep them in mind or clearly spell out the ship rather than making abbreviations that have no historic significance (when there are already abbreviations with precedence).

Combat Vessels:
BB Battleship
BBc Coastal Battleship
BC Battle Cruiser
CA Heavy Cruiser
CL Light Cruiser
CL(AA) Light Cruiser (Antiaircraft)
CM Minelayer
CMc Coastal Minelayer
CV Aircraft Carrier (Fleet)
CVE Aircraft Carrier (Escort)
CVL Aircraft Carrier (Light)
CVS Aircraft Carrier (Seaplane)
CX Armed Mechant Cruiser
DD Destroyer
DE Destroyer Escort
DM Light Minelayer
DMS Fast Minesweeper (Destroyer)
SM Submarine (Mine Laying)
SS Submarine

And Auxiliaries:
AB Crane Ship
AC Collier
ACM Auxiliary Minelayer
ACV Auxiliary Aircraft Carrier (CVE)
AD Destroyer Tender
ADG Degaussing Ship
AE Ammunition Ship
AEL Small Ammunition Ship
AF Stores Ship
AFD Mobile Floating Crane
AFDB Large Auxiliary Floating Drydock (Non-Self-Propelled)
AFDL© Small Auxiliary Floating Drydock (Concrete)
AFDM Medium Auxiliary Floating Drydock (Non-Self-Propelled)
AFS Combat Stores Ship
AG Miscellaneous Auxiliary
AGB Icebreaker
AGC Amphibious Force Command Ship
AGCL Small Communications Ship
AGD Seagoing Dredge
AGDE Escort Research Ship
AGDS Deep Submergence Support Ship
AGF Miscellaneous Command Ship
AGL Lighthouse Tender
AGP Patrol Craft Boat Tender
AGOR Oceanographic Research Ship
AGS Surveying Ship
AGT Target Service Ship
AH Hospital Ship
AK Cargo Ship
AKA Attack Cargo Ship
AKD Deephold Cargo Ship
AKE Ammunition Transport
AKF Refrigerated Cargo Ship
AKL Light Cargo Ship
AKN Net Cargo Ship
AKS General Stores Ship
AKV Cargo Ship & Aircraft Ferry
AL Lighthouse Ship
ALS Auxiliary Lighter Ship
AM Minesweeper
AMc Coastal Minesweeper
AMA Auxiliary Minesweeper
AMS High Speed Minesweeper
AN Net-Laying Ship
AO Tanker (Oiler)
AOG Tanker (Gasoline)
AP Transport
APA Attack Transport
APB Self-Propelled Barracks Ship
APc Coastal Transport
APD Destroyer Transport (High Speed)
APH Evacuation Transport
APL Barracks Ship (Non-Self-Propelled)
APM Mechanized Artillery Transport
APS Transport Submarine
APV Transport & Aircraft Ferry
AR Repair Ship
ARB Battle-Damage Repair Ship
ARD Auxiliary Repair Drydock (Floating Repair Drydock)
ARG Repair Ship, Internal Combustion Engine
ARH Repair Ship, Heavy Hull
ARL Repair Ship, Landing Craft
ARS Salvage Ship
ARS(T) Salvage Vessel Tender
ARV Aircraft Repair Ship
ARV(A) Aircraft Repair Ship (Aircraft)
ARV(E) Aircraft Repair Ship (Engines)
AS Submarine Tender
ASR Submarine Rescue Vessel
AT Tug
ATA Auxiliary Tug
ATF Ocean-Going Tug, Fleet
ATO Ocean-Going Tug, old
ATR Rescue Tug
ATS Salvage & Rescue Ship
AV Seaplane Tender
AVB Advanced Aviation Base Ship
AVC Catapult Tender
AVD Seaplane Tender (Destroyer)
AVG Escort Vessel (Aircraft) = CVE
AVP Small Seaplane Tender
AVS Aviation Supply Ship
AVT Auxiliary Aircraft Transport Ship
AW Distilling Ship
AWK Water Tanker
AZ Lighter-Than-Air Aircraft Tender
IX Unclassified, miscellaneous

[gamerman01]

Larry needs to implement all of those in the next A&A version.  :lol:
Then maybe we could have some units that cost 1 or 2 IPC’s…

[kcdzim]

@gamerman01:

Larry needs to implement all of those in the next A&A version.  :lol:
Then maybe we could have some units that cost 1 or 2 IPC’s…

Yes, I would like to see a “Lighter than Air Aircraft Tender”.  I imagine they would be absolutely critical to the sacking of East USA by Germany.

oh.

wait.

I forgot, this isn’t Crimson Skies.  or WW1.

[JimmyHat]

Thanks for the list kcdzim.  I didn’t know there were that many different types of ships!  I figure its best to use the official designations so that people know what I am talking about…and I don’t sound like an unedumacated fool.

Still, to each their own…

[Jennifer]

Yea, thanks for the list, but, uhm…who the hell came up with the list?  Someone needs a spanking!  Same with the twit that renamed first corps EYE corps… (used EYE instead of I on purpose.)

Oh well, I refuse to accept your reality and in its place I substitute my own:

BB = Battle Boat
CA = Cruiser Attack
DD = Destroyer Dreadnaught
SS = Silly Submarine
AC = Awesome Craft (aka Aircraft Carrier)

[Mountaineer]

Actually, members of I Corps are offended when you call it “eye” corps. They are “First!”

[Jennifer]

@Mountaineer:

Actually, members of I Corps are offended when you call it “eye” corps. They are “First!”

Yea, that’s what I was saying!

[amagicgiraffe]

What i meant was this
If a fighter (attacker) attacks a seazone with an enemy submarine and a cc,in the event that the defender somehow chooses the cc as casualty ,and then he misses his cruiser’s hit against the fighter.
This leaves the fighter and the sub in the seazone. Does the fighter use up the rest of his moving spaces to go back to friendly territory or does he automatically retreat moving one space to friendly adjacent territory…?

[JimmyHat]

You’re example is flawed because the ftr cannot attack the sub, there is no attacking dd present.  This battle is actually 1 CA vs 1 ftr, the sub cannot get hit or fight.

[gamerman01]

And fighters don’t retreat one space like ground units do.  Fighters can move whatever movement they have left, so must fly 3 or less to the zone or territory it is attacking, leaving at least 1 to fly elsewhere.

If your force is all air and there are enemy subs, those enemy subs are not involved in the battle in any way because they are ineligible targets for air that is not accompanied by a destroyer(s).