PTV Daaras (x+12) vs General Disarray

[gamerman01]

Lastly, because I think it may help and possibly be appreciated, I’ll state it in a negative way.

What harm did the cold, calculating veteran GeneralDisarray cause?

IF Japan declares war on UK/ANZ, then

1. Japan can’t noncombat move any of the ground units on Carolines or New Hebrides. To get the marine off New Hebrides this turn, Japan has to amphibiously assault some other enemy island
2. Japan can’t use transports to noncombat move OTHER ground units, for example, Japan can’t transport any ground from Japan to Korea, Manchuria, or any of the other friendly territories up there
3. Japan has to move all ships in the enemy zones to destination zones without seeing combat results (where destination could include the starting, hostile, zone)

But…
Japan can still fully load up all 3 transports with Carolines army and go take Allied territories.

Any remaining questions, please give me a chance to clear them up, have fun guys

[Daaras]

@gamerman01 Alright, thank you sir!

I’m going to let him make some edits, because his moves clearly show the intent of not letting my amphibious assault elsewhere. I don’t want to pillage Sydney because of a silly rule like this.

[GeneralDisarray]

@Daaras Its my fault for not knowing the rules I suppose. I have been stopped a few times like this and it’s frustrating. Not knowing this rule I would have done America differently as well. You can take this game as well for that as it would seemingly be too much to unwind. Gg glad I learned something. I’ll post it up soon.

[Daaras]

@GeneralDisarray I don’t mind if you want to edit back to USA1. I like to play the game, not have things like this ruin it. I’d also be fine if you wanted to post it and unwind from usa1. I’m not malicious, lets just have some fun.

[gamerman01]

@GeneralDisarray I hope you’ll reconsider giving up the game, and go back to US1

[GeneralDisarray]

@gamerman01 Both generous so I will continue. That said if you did not know the rules and asked to stay loaded up on your tt instead I am not sure I would have extended the courtesy nor has it ever been extended to me. Fight on appreciate the pass.

[Daaras]

@GeneralDisarray @gamerman01 This is something I wish the League would be better about. We don’t need to be so brutal and cutthroat.

I am very in favor, of what I would call “Obvious Edits”. Your moves clearly indicated that you were under the impression that I couldn’t move. If I’m going to win, I want it to be from better strategy/tactics. Not a misunderstood rule, or a simple oversight. i.e. missing a blocker or getting a capital killed when you can easily prevent it, etc

[GeneralDisarray]

@Daaras Appreciate the edits if Italy want to move anything around differently let me know. R2 Revised.tsvg

[Daaras]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 factory_minors and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Siam
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
              Japanese take Hunan from Chinese
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
        1 artillery moved from Jehol to Southern Manchuria
        3 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe

    Combat - Japanese

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 marine moved from New Hebrides to 54 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
        2 carriers moved from 34 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Caroline Islands to 56 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Marshall Islands to Caroline Islands
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Hokkaido to 7 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 4 transports moved from 7 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 aaGun moved from Japan to Kyushu
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Kiangsu

    Place Units - Japanese
        2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery placed in Japan
        1 factory_minor placed in Southern Manchuria
        1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
        Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[GeneralDisarray]

@Daaras B2.tsvg

[GeneralDisarray]

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Line Islands to 104 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Line Islands to Eastern United States
        3 fighters moved from Line Islands to Hawaiian Islands
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 27 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Western United States to Central United States
        1 artillery moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone
        1 transport placed in 104 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in Central United States
        Americans undo move 2.
        1 submarine placed in 104 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 11 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
        Chinese buy 4 artilleries; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
              Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 42 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 81 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        9 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
        1 fighter and 6 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Szechwan

    Place Units - Chinese
        4 artilleries placed in Szechwan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 18 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 factory_minor, 1 infantry and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 2 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 armour moved from Egypt to Alexandria
              British take Alexandria from Italians
        1 armour moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 83 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 115 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China
              UK_Pacific take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis
        1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
        1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Italian Somaliland
              British take Italian Somaliland from Italians
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Kenya

    Combat - British
        Battle in 98 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 submarine
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
        Battle in 115 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber and 3 fighters
            Germans defend with 2 destroyers
                British roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 destroyers in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the British lost in 115 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 115 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in 115 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 115 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 115 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for British: 2 fighters
            Casualties for Germans: 2 destroyers
        Battle in Kenya
            British attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kenya, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kenya
            1 tactical_bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British retreated
            Italians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kenya to Egypt
        1 transport moved from 78 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
        2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 78 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 40 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma
        1 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Southern Persia
              British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies
        1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        1 bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to United Kingdom

    Place Units - British
        1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
        1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
        3 submarines placed in 112 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - British
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 112 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,4
        British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Eastern India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs
        Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.50
Germans regular : 1.00
British regular : -0.83