BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15)

[Amon-Sul]

As for the game analysis

well, first of all i think i never played against JDOW1. I see its more often now.

I made a strategic mistake by allowing Ur navies to merge in the Mediterranean. That haunted me the entire game (and almost caused a loss).

I was able to empty USA, UK, India and Oceania, and be on the frontline with the Chinese, but the Med thing kept bothering me.

I came to late to Normandy, then i made that mistake in sz 105 (U exploited it very well) and lost trannies and the momentum.

On the Pacific side i was too slow with the Amur stack, I should have put it to Amur before rd 3. U used that and pulled the Japs south.

With UK Pacific i bought too many ships (and air). I should have been buying more mechs, especially in one of the early rounds what i missed.

In the later part of the game i was too fast in play, (i had big stress at work and home and couldnt dedicate myself 100 % to the game, but i wanted to keep the speed pace) so i messed up in France and Egypt

and u used it very well.

I made one oversight in France though, i thought that TUV difference is not a problem since i have the lead in TUV of almost 1000 , and +100 per round in PUs.

But i lost the momentum there, and i should have been using battle calculator more there.

I rushed to France, and it was not good.

Also i was eager to capture Volgograd and make a breaktrough in Russia, and ignoring and underestimating axis capabilities in taking and holding Cairo and Volgograd at the same time.

I learned a lesson there. Should be more modest next time.

I think i deserved the win, but i am sad u dont get any i dont know extra point for playing a very good game from the begining to the end.

U offered little mistakes for me to exploit, only a few oversights where i straffed ur land with my air (last time in Caucaus was painfull but it paved the way for victory).

I think strategically, U were confused with my KJF (Kill Japan First) or SJF (Slow Japan First)

or as i like to mention IJF (Isolate Japan First).

The decision to go for Johnston and NT harbours and move to India earliest possible proved fantastic.

[Amon-Sul]

Trulpen dislaked my ˝Yunnan superfortress˝ strategy. He called me an unorthodox player who plays unlogical strategies.

But as i said, i play for fun primarily, and then i try to combine the fun and the strategies.

[fasthard]

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

U accepted me as the allies with +15, U play with great pace (i like it), but sometimes it gets me too, and i play too fast.

It was one of my first games via forum and I think I have to adapt the speed. Don’t wanted you to wait long (and I also didn’t want to wait ;-))
I learned that AAguns are not that woRthless I ever thought, I also think there have never been more facilities on the map ever :-D. #crazygame
I hope we can meet each other again for a rematch in future (or similar if you prefer to play the Allies)

[Amon-Sul]

I would like to hear Ur comments of the game,

and ur comments on my comments

We can discuss good and less good moves from axis and allies side

to improve our play in the games to come

[Amon-Sul]

@fasthard said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

U accepted me as the allies with +15, U play with great pace (i like it), but sometimes it gets me too, and i play too fast.

It was one of my first games via forum and I think I have to adapt the speed. Don’t wanted you to wait long (and I also didn’t want to wait ;-))
I learned that AAguns are not that woRthless I ever thought, I also think there have never been more facilities on the map ever :-D. #crazygame
I hope we can meet each other again for a rematch in future (or similar if you prefer to play the Allies)

Yeah

its good u play fast, but fast only is enough. U dont have to be very fast (too fast) , altough concerning the speed, u hadnt had much tactical mistakes.

[Amon-Sul]

How did u played before?

Via mail or alive on the board?

[fasthard]

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

or as i like to mention IJF (Isolate Japan First).

Yes absolutely. In the few board games we had there was always KGF and Japan got unstoppable. But if china and anzac hold Japan at bay US and UK can care about European Axis.

[Amon-Sul]

@fasthard said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

or as i like to mention IJF (Isolate Japan First).

Yes absolutely. In the few board games we had there was always KGF and Japan got unstoppable. But if china and anzac hold Japan at bay US and UK can care about European Axis.

Yes, that is the premise.

Japan is weird, on one hand so powerful and strong, and in the same time very vulnerable if pressured on many sides.

[Amon-Sul]

@fasthard said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

U accepted me as the allies with +15, U play with great pace (i like it), but sometimes it gets me too, and i play too fast.

It was one of my first games via forum and I think I have to adapt the speed. Don’t wanted you to wait long (and I also didn’t want to wait ;-))
I learned that AAguns are not that woRthless I ever thought, I also think there have never been more facilities on the map ever :-D. #crazygame
I hope we can meet each other again for a rematch in future (or similar if you prefer to play the Allies)

AA guns are great, especially if u have them from the start, and can use them ˝for free˝. But I also bought some since they can cause real (and potentially great) threat to the enemy airforce.

[Amon-Sul]

Yeah, I like to buy many facilites (maybe too much) :D

I would like to play a rematch, but first a need a few days off

I would like to be allies again and test something new, with 24 bid (or 16 bid) if u dont wish to give me the bid of 24.

Then i suggest , after we finish that game, that we play a third game with me as the axis and u as the allies with a +16 (or +24) bid.

cheers :)

[fasthard]

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

I would like to hear Ur comments of the game,

and ur comments on my comments

I only played live with two friends of mine (I’m advertising them to play via forum as well). I always had doubt about the dicing but I didn’t know about the diceserver to protect againt cheating.
I read a lot in the forum, followed games here and watched youtube-wars.

About our game (I hope I don’t tell any rubbish ;-))
First I was wondering about your bid, I never liked buying AA guns, now I don’t like it if my opponent buys them…
I also read a lot in the forum about J1 so I wanted to try, (not best idea in combination with the yunnan stack i think).

I was also wondering that your complete navi left the med and italy alone. (Italy liked it, Japan not)
Merging GER and ITA navi in SZ91 and blocking US from going and also attacking there went very well, saved time and capacity to concern about russia and costed lots of money for the US, I think this helped Japan. (Nearly bought an airbase in Gibraltar, but I wanted to go into the med.
Killing SZ105 again saved the European axis time and also lots of capacity .

In round 14 I made the biggest mistake I think, when I decided to stay in SZ36 at French Indo (and not at SZ35 at the Phillies) So you could stack at the Phillies and had all possibilities. Now European axis had to speed up. (Thank you Japan!)

I think I could have captured and hold Egypt (hold Paris as well, Rome could be blocked) if you didn’t free Paris. Therefore I think it was costy but necessary.

When I finally attacked Egypt I thought about all I think except a small little victory city called Volgograd. Had few thoughts about the purchase, one tank driving to holidays to siberia. Now I know I should have captured Kazakhstan to block the mechs from Afganistan, strafe/capure Rostov and retreat to Stalingrad. Purchase max defence in Moscow/Stalingrad. Annoying but it’s only a game (sometimes I have to tell me that more times ;-))

[fasthard]

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

I would like to play a rematch, but first a need a few days off

I also started some new games. I’ll write you when they are finished!

[Amon-Sul]

Concerning Japan

i think u were too passive in the late game.

Not just rd 14 i think u had more options there with ur fleet, especially since my navy was big, but more defensive in nature (consisting of several nations and lacking USA air , maybe even ships, for greater offensive capacity).

For me USA air also helped a lot killing Japanes inf on non-coastal territories, it gave China free inf, time , money and space ( not needing to spend a lot of units in lots of small battles, since China lacks air which Japan has in abundance.).

[Amon-Sul]

@fasthard said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

I would like to play a rematch, but first a need a few days off

I also started some new games. I’ll write you when they are finished!

np

i ll be glad to play you :)

EURO starts tomorrow so i have things to do in free time :)

[fasthard]

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

EURO starts tomorrow so i have things to do in free time

Hopefully Germany has more than three games…

Btw:
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3818/assign-aircraft-to-aircarft-carrier

[Amon-Sul]

@fasthard said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

EURO starts tomorrow so i have things to do in free time

Hopefully Germany has more than three games…

Btw:
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3818/assign-aircraft-to-aircarft-carrier

I am sure it will have

Maybe Germany and Croatia meet in the later stage , who knows

[Amon-Sul]

As for Volgograd, yeah U missed there a bit, maybe Kazahstan the most.

But as i said, weird game, so much units in the Mediteranean.

At one moment we had combine TUV of 5000 .
(allies 3000, axis 2000).

I never saw it in my life.

Usually, there is much more death on both sides :D

[Amon-Sul]

We were both good in defence and avoiding risky battles, building our path to victory patiently.

U offered very little to exploit during the game (minus those straffe and maybe Volgograd a bit in the end). So i must aplaud U , it is so many turns and moves with facing so much allied units on air, sea and land.

I think that simbolically those lads in Volgograd that survived (UK Europe aa guns, UK Pacific land and ANZAC air units) are like a simbol that altough criplled in the Med, with advancing to European theatre were able to change the course of the game + UK Europe aa guns.

As for USA, i had so much problems with Ur German air, i should have bring more air and sea units, and not so much focus on land, since i could not break through ur defences.

But i was afraid to loose Spain or Gibraltar, and I had to watch out for Sea Lion too.

On the other hand I agree with U on France. I lost a lot there, but it took Germany s attentions, and key resources (like some fighters and a bunch of land units which could be on the Eastern front instead).

With my Soviet lads my plan was to attack Novgorod and stack there, and if threatened , move towards Norway to spread Germany s forces and take Germany s money.

Maybe even later USA could take norway, russia move land troops, and allies there air, and it could be a new fortress in the North.

Norway is the thing i couldnt pull with USA and UK since i had so much work in the Meditereanean.

I had to sacrifice it.

Overall, i am glad i attacked the neutrals, but it had its disatvantages (German air can easily reach almost anything - especially bombers).

Main advantage is making it simple for USA to bring masses of units to Western Europe.

I had to do it, because i would loose a big stack, maybe in other conditions, I would be pulling it out later, or even not to (depending on the axis play).

[Amon-Sul]

just one thing more

as for Volgograd purchase edit U wanted, even if it was not ˝the decisive battle˝ i would not allow it

since i dont allow altercations after the dices are thrown (its messy, can cause problems among players).

That is my general rule

I sometimes make rare exceptions if its 100 % sure it has nothing do to with the other side of the board (usually ncm corrections) and even if its the same side and its obvious somebody simply forgot to move a unit somewhere

hope we are ok with all this

cheers :)

[fasthard]

@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

hope we are ok with all this

Yes absolute.
I didn’t really cared about my purchase. I only thought if the attacks in Egypt and Iraq work as planed the game is over, but then I saw 20+mechs, 9ftr and other uk stuff could reach vogograd. Learned it the hard way… Next time I’ll do even better ;-)