Panzerstahl-Helm vs barnee Game 3

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @Panzerstahl-Helm

    Idk what’s happening. ANZAC didn’t have there units place. Will have to edit. There PU total is correct

    I don’t want to try and change it. Just fuck it up more probably

    Shouldn’t affect G. The Normandy attack correct.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @Panzerstahl-Helm forgot to remove two Fortifications in HI. Will do on ssr turn. Everthing right, except ANZAC place. As mentioned earlier, shouldn’t affect anything. :)


  • @barnee

    Hi,

    oh boy, I just learned that transports can transport any 2 land units (except 2 tanks) at once. So I was using it “oldschool” with 1 inf + 1 land unit of any kind… I noticed this in the previous round, but didn´t follow up. Now I noticed when I looked at Gibraltar and the stack of US forces there! Oh boy! I had to re-plan my German turn in the Mediterranian and Gibraltar was a tough fight! This little sh**ty place on earth (its only rock and some monkeys living there, and with monkey I mean real monkeys) seems to be the hot spot of this game with switching owners twice per round… hehehe!
    Anyway, lesson learned with the transports!
    I miss-clicked the casualities and had to switch 1 bomber against 1 Waffen-SS in order to take Gibraltar. The Brits/US boys gave me some bad beating! In my test rounds before I was taking way less casualities…anyway. As long as it is German again…

    Game History

    Round: 11
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            triggerAttachmenLate1944: has removed 1 Late1944_red owned by Changer in Late 1944
            triggerAttachmenLate1944: Changer has 1 Late1944 placed in Late 1944
            Germans buy 1 German_LCV, 1 King_Tiger, 1 Panzer_Grndrs, 4 TotalWarMe_262s, 1 elite, 1 german_para and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 Rails placed in Germany
            Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermansItalyTakeover: Germans has 1 Europe_Rail placed in Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 german_para moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                  Germans take Tunisia from British
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
                  Germans take Holland Belgium from British
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland
            1 Me_262 moved from Norway to Finland
            1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Denmark to Finland
            2 Me_262s moved from Western Germany to Finland
            EDIT: 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Army Group Centre to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 Panzer_General3 and 5 armour moved from 1st Panzer to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 Waffen_Oberst, 1 waffen_infantry and 2 waffen_panzers moved from 4th Waffen to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 1 Waffen_Oberst and 2 waffen_panzers moved from 3rd Waffen to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupActive moved from Army Group Centre to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupCentre moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
            EDIT: 2 German_LCVs, 3 infantry and 1 waffen_infantry moved from Southern France to Gibraltar
            1 Me_262 and 2 bombers moved from Southern France to Gibraltar
            2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar
            1 German_LCV and 3 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 German_LCV, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 German_LCV and 3 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            EDIT: 1 Waffen_Para and 1 german_para moved from Syria to Alexandria
            1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Syria to 99 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 artillery moved from 96 Sea Zone to Libya
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            EDIT: 1 Waffen_Para moved from Syria to Libya
            1 fighter moved from Syria to Alexandria
            1 fighter moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            1 LuftwaffeAce moved from 99 Sea Zone to Libya
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Novgorod
                Germans attack with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 ArmyGroupCentre, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 7 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 waffen_infantry and 4 waffen_panzers
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 ArmyGroupCentre, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 7 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 waffen_infantry and 4 waffen_panzers in Novgorod, round 2 : 12/26 hits, 12,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 ArmyGroupCentre, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 7 armour, 1 artillery, 1 waffen_infantry and 4 waffen_panzers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Gibraltar
                Germans attack with 3 German_LCVs, 1 Me_262, 4 bombers, 6 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 waffen_infantry
                British defend with 1 harbour; French defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 5 ArmoredInfantrys, 6 artilleries and 1 elite
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Gibraltar, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 German_LCVs, 1 Me_262, 4 bombers, 6 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 waffen_infantry in Gibraltar, round 2 : 5/13 hits, 5,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 5 ArmoredInfantrys, 6 artilleries, 1 elite and 1 fighter in Gibraltar, round 2 : 7/14 hits, 5,83 expected hits
                    3 German_LCVs owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Gibraltar
                    6 artilleries owned by the Americans lost in Gibraltar
                    Germans roll dice for 1 Me_262, 4 bombers, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 waffen_infantry in Gibraltar, round 3 : 4/9 hits, 4,50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 5 ArmoredInfantrys, 1 elite and 1 fighter in Gibraltar, round 3 : 5/8 hits, 3,83 expected hits
                    1 waffen_infantry owned by the Germans, 1 bomber owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 Me_262 owned by the Germans lost in Gibraltar
                    4 ArmoredInfantrys owned by the Americans lost in Gibraltar
                    Germans roll dice for 3 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber in Gibraltar, round 4 : 3/4 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 ArmoredInfantry, 1 elite and 1 fighter in Gibraltar, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in Gibraltar
                    1 elite owned by the Americans, 1 ArmoredInfantry owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the French lost in Gibraltar
                Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -20
                Casualties for Germans: 3 German_LCVs, 1 Me_262, 2 bombers, 6 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 waffen_infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 5 ArmoredInfantrys, 6 artilleries and 1 elite
                Casualties for French: 1 fighter
            Battle in Finland
                Germans attack with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 3 Me_262s and 4 infantry
                Russians defend with 4 armour
                    Germans roll dice for 1 LuftwaffeAce, 3 Me_262s and 4 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 3,67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 armour in Finland, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
                    4 armour owned by the Russians lost in Finland
                Germans win, taking Finland from Russians with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 3 Me_262s and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 4 armour
            Battle in Alexandria
                Germans attack with 1 Waffen_Para, 1 fighter and 1 german_para
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll GermanAirborneAttack dice in Alexandria : 0/0 hits, 0,00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 Waffen_Para, 1 fighter and 1 german_para in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 german_para owned by the Germans lost in Alexandria
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria
                Germans win, taking Alexandria from British with 1 Waffen_Para and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 german_para
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Libya
                Germans attack with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 Waffen_Para, 1 armour and 1 artillery
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 Waffen_Para, 1 armour and 1 artillery in Libya, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Libya
                Germans win, taking Libya from British with 1 LuftwaffeAce, 1 Waffen_Para, 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Trans-Jordan
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Trans-Jordan
                Germans win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Gibraltar: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Gibraltar: 1 waffen_infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Gibraltar from British to Germans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermansItalyTakeover: has removed 1 Europe_Rail and 1 Rail owned by Germans in Southern France
            Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermansItalyTakeover: has removed 1 Rail owned by Germans in Germany
            Trigger Urals Tank Unit: Russians has 1 armour placed in Urals
            1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to Southern France
            2 Me_262s moved from Western Germany to Southern France
            1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Syria to 92 Sea Zone
            1 Me_262 moved from Finland to Denmark
            1 LuftwaffeAce and 2 Me_262s moved from Finland to Norway
            1 Waffen_Hvy_Tank moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 elite moved from Western Germany to Denmark
            1 Europe_Rail moved from Germany to Denmark
            1 Europe_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Denmark to Southern France
            1 WaffenPnzrGrndr and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Southern France
            1 Rail and 1 elite moved from Germany to Southern France
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 DesertGeneral3 and 3 armour moved from 1st Desert to Syria
            EDIT: 1 DesertGeneral3, 1 armour and 1 elite moved from Syria to 99 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 DesertGeneral3, 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 elite and 2 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
            1 King_Tiger moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Denmark to Northern Italy
            EDIT: 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 1 Waffen_Oberst and 2 waffen_panzers moved from Novgorod to 3rd Waffen
            EDIT: 1 Waffen_Oberst, 1 waffen_infantry and 2 waffen_panzers moved from Novgorod to 4th Waffen
            EDIT: 1 Panzer_General3 and 5 armour moved from Novgorod to 1st Panzer
            EDIT: 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Army Group Centre
            EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupActive moved from Novgorod to Army Group Centre
            1 GermanUBoat moved from 58 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 GermanUBoat moved from 82 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Alexandria to 96 Sea Zone
            1 LuftwaffeAce moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone
            1 DesertGeneral3, 1 armour and 1 elite moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tobruk
            EDIT: 1 G_air_transport and 1 armour moved from Syria to Tobruk
            EDIT: 1 DAK moved from Syria to Tobruk
            EDIT: 1 DesertGeneral3, 2 armour and 1 elite moved from Tobruk to 1st Desert
            1 fighter moved from Syria to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Tobruk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Tobruk
            1 GermanUBoat moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Germans
            4 TotalWarMe_262s placed in Western Germany
            1 King_Tiger, 1 elite and 1 german_para placed in Germany
            1 German_LCV and 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            1 Panzer_Grndrs and 3 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            3 infantry placed in Eastern Poland
            4 infantry placed in Western Germany
            Trigger GermansTotalWarMe 262PlaceWesternGermany4: has removed 4 TotalWarMe_262s owned by Germans in Western Germany
            Trigger GermansTotalWarMe 262PlaceWesternGermany4: Germans has 4 Me_262s placed in Western Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3,4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6
            Germans collect 61 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 61 PUs
            Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Trigger Germans ReceiveItaliansRomanEmpireObjective: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Trigger Germans ReceiveItaliansNoShipsMedObjective: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
            Trigger Germans ReceiveItaliansNorth AfricaObjective: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs
            Trigger Germans ReceiveItaliansAdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 96 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 101 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : -0,33
    Germans regular : 0,50
    Germans GermanAirborneAttack : 0,00
    British regular : 3,50
    

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  • @Panzerstahl-Helm heh heh yea it took me a while to remember that too. Paras and aaGuns are considered Tanks too. I think I have it so you can’t load 2 of any combo but not entirely sure. I will dbl check.

    Yea GIB a bloodbath this game :) Gives you the Med bonus and takes away the Harbor for the Yanks to use. Was hoping they might hold this time lol


  • @Panzerstahl-Helm yea so I’m pretty sure Elites can’t be part of a Desert Army.

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    Do you want to swap the Elite and the Inf from Syria in the Jordan battle? That way you can still reform the Africa Corps in Tobruk.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @Panzerstahl-Helm

    Game History

    Round: 11
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 Mass_Tankss, 2 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Soviet_Partisan, 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s, 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries, 1 elite and 1 russian_para; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 AirLendLease; 0 TankLendLease; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 Europe_Rail and 2 Rails placed in Russia
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Russians takes Poland from Germans
                EDIT: Russians takes Korea from Japanese
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Germans takes Poland from Russians
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Russians takes Poland from Germans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Poland from Russians to Germans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 elite moved from Belarus to Baltic States
                  Russians take Baltic States from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
                  Russians take Bessarabia from Germans
            1 armour moved from Amur to Jehol
                  Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese
                  Chinese take Jehol from Japanese
            1 armour moved from Buryatia to Siberia
            1 armour and 1 elite moved from Buryatia to Sakha
            EDIT: 1 Soviet_Commisar_3 and 3 armour moved from 1st Corps to Amur
            EDIT: 1 armour moved from Amur to Korea
            EDIT: 1 armour moved from Korea to Manchuria
            EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupActive, 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Army Group Centre to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupCentre moved from Novgorod to Army Group Centre
            EDIT: 1 Panzer_General3 and 5 armour moved from 1st Panzer to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 Waffen_Oberst, 1 waffen_infantry and 2 waffen_panzers moved from 4th Waffen to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 1 Waffen_Oberst and 2 waffen_panzers moved from 3rd Waffen to Novgorod
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Novgorod
            3 russian_paras moved from Russia to Novgorod
            3 Russian_Rocketss moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
            3 guard_infantrys moved from Smolensk to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 1stTankArmy moved from Smolensk to 1st Tank
            EDIT: 1 Tank_General3 and 5 armour moved from 1st Tank to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 1stSovietAG moved from Bryansk to 1st Army Group
            EDIT: 2 armour and 6 guard_infantrys moved from 1st Army Group to Novgorod
            EDIT: 3 armour moved from 2nd Corps to Novgorod
            EDIT: 5 armour moved from 2nd Tank to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 Army_Group moved from 1st Army Group to Novgorod
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Siberia
                Russians attack with 1 armour
                Japanese defend with 1 Japanese_LCV
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Siberia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 Japanese_LCV in Siberia, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                    1 Japanese_LCV owned by the Japanese lost in Siberia
                Russians win, taking Siberia from Japanese with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 Japanese_LCV
            Battle in Sakha
                Russians attack with 1 armour and 1 elite
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 elite in Sakha, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sakha, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 elite in Sakha, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sakha, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sakha
                Russians win, taking Sakha from Japanese with 1 armour and 1 elite remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novgorod
                Russians attack with 1 Army_Group, 3 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Tank_General3, 16 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 9 guard_infantrys, 3 infantry, 3 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 7 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 waffen_infantry and 4 waffen_panzers
                    Russians roll RussianAirborneAttack dice in Novgorod : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 3 Russian_Rocketss in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                    3 Russian_Rocketss owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                    Russians roll dice for 1 Army_Group, 1 Tank_General3, 16 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 9 guard_infantrys, 3 infantry, 3 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers in Novgorod, round 2 : 19/41 hits, 17.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 7 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 waffen_infantry and 4 waffen_panzers in Novgorod, round 2 : 17/26 hits, 15.33 expected hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 Army_Group owned by the Russians, 3 armour owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 9 guard_infantrys owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                    2 Panzer_Grndrss owned by the Germans, 1 Panzer_General3 owned by the Germans, 2 waffen_panzers owned by the Germans, 1 waffen_infantry owned by the Germans, 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr owned by the Germans, 1 ArmyGroupActive owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 Waffen_Obersts owned by the Germans and 7 armour owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                    Russians roll dice for 1 Tank_General3, 13 armour, 2 fighters, 3 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers in Novgorod, round 3 : 10/25 hits, 11.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 waffen_panzers in Novgorod, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    2 armour owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                    2 waffen_panzers owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 Tank_General3, 11 armour, 2 fighters, 3 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
                Casualties for Germans: 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 7 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 waffen_infantry and 4 waffen_panzers
                Casualties for Russians: 1 Army_Group, 3 Russian_Rocketss, 5 armour, 1 artillery, 9 guard_infantrys and 3 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 Europe_Rail and 2 Rails owned by Russians in Amur
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
            1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Novgorod
            EDIT: 1 Tank_General3 and 5 armour moved from Novgorod to 1st Tank
            EDIT: 1 1stTankArmy moved from 1st Tank to Novgorod
            6 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 armour moved from Caucasus to Bryansk
            1 armour moved from Caucasus to Bryansk
            EDIT: 5 armour moved from Bryansk to 2nd Tank
            EDIT: 3 armour moved from Bryansk to 2nd Corps
            EDIT: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Bryansk to 1st Army Group
            EDIT: 1 1stSovietAG moved from 1st Army Group to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 aaGun and 10 infantry moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 elite moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            5 Russian_Rocketss moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 artillery moved from Volgograd to Rostov
            1 Russian_Engineer moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
            2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Russia
            1 FighterAce moved from Iraq to Caucasus
            1 Europe_Rail and 1 elite moved from Russia to Amur
            1 Rail moved from Russia to Urals
            1 Rail and 1 armour moved from Urals to Amur
            1 Rail moved from Russia to Caucasus
            1 Rail and 1 armour moved from Caucasus to Amur
            EDIT: 1 Soviet_Commisar_3 and 3 armour moved from Amur to 1st Corps
            1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 armour moved from Persia to Caucasus
            1 armour moved from Iraq to Caucasus
            1 3rdCorps moved from Iraq to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
    
        Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery placed in Volgograd
            3 Mass_Tankss, 2 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Soviet_Partisan, 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s, 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 elite and 1 russian_para placed in Russia
            Trigger MassTanksPlace3: has removed 3 Mass_Tankss owned by Russians in Russia
            Trigger RussiansTotalWarTankPlaceRussia6: has removed 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s owned by Russians in Russia
            Trigger MassTanksPlace3: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia
            Trigger RussiansTotalWarTankPlaceRussia6: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,5,3,5,5,6,4,5
            Russians collect 37 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 37 PUs
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 48 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Japanese regular : -0.67
    Germans regular : 2.00
    Russians regular : 0.67
    Russians RussianAirborneAttack : 0.00
    

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    I went ahead and replaced your Elite with a Inf. Let me know if you want it different. I forgot to check that Jordan battle, so if you killed UK Inf same time as G Inf, you’d want the Elite over the Arty.

    Anyway, a little busy with the big battle in lenningrad and reforming the Corps, Armies and AG.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @Panzerstahl-Helm

    Just a reminder, Waffen Units can’t be naval transported. Player Enforced. I just checked if i could change it, but then they can’t use Air Trprt. Land Trprt (Rail) works. That’s why the Waffen Hvy works as it should.

    Seems it’d be an easy enough feature to add. Idk enough about the code though. Basically almost nothing lol

    Anyway, Air and Rail only for the SS, execpt the Hvy is Rail only. In case you wanted to change the S FRA SS Pnzrgrndr rail move.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @Panzerstahl-Helm

    Ahh noticed you sent a Waffen Inf to GIB battle. That’s ok as you didn’t know the rule and triplea doesn’t enforce it. This only your 3rd game and as you know, it’s quite complex. In a good way of course :)

    Itll be 3 years for me in April and i still forget stuff :) The Captain and Company have to refer to the rules themselves at times. :)

    Anyway, how about we off the Waffen and replace with a Wehrmacht Inf ? Sound good ?


  • Howdy,

    I found the info regarding the transportation capacity of transports.

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    Things I did in EDIT:
    I switched the Waffe-SS-boys against a regular inf. Seems to be fair.
    I also replaced the Elite in the Desert Army against the inf, which fought in Trans-Jordan. As a result I replaced the artillery as casuality instead of this very Elite, hence the Elite is now protecting Trans-Jorda against the Allied aggression! :-)
    And last but not least I switched the SS-Panzergrandier in Southern France against a regular inf from Normandie, since Waffen-SS boys get sea sick and can´t be transported via sea.
    I used to know this from our first game, where I transported a Waffen-SS inf to Norway, but I forgot it…I barely can remember things from 12.00am til noon. hehehe!
    Although I donßt understand the lgic behind this, why Waffen units vcan´t be transported via sea.
    And last thing is regarding Army groups. As I understand the rules, they can only be formed (in any way) during NCM and Placement phase, but it seems that you can use single units and/or armies out of this AG to move in the combat move phase also. Is that correct? If so, the rules should be clarified with the additional sentence like: “An existing AG from the beginning of this round can be unformed during Combat Phase and single unitsand/or armies within this AG can move separatly.”

    I am not converned about this current game, the eastern front was too growded anyway, but for understanding. This is why I haven´t formed an army in Eastern Poland yet, to keep the options open to move single units.

    Tmy Japan turn is still cooking. The Russians become a pain in the arm for the Nippons. :-)

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  • @Panzerstahl-Helm yes you have it correct. You can move out of an AG during CM and then reform it in NCM or place depending where it’s located. I will clarify that in Game Notes. You can also form an AG at the beginning of CM. Well Technically it’d be after Place which there are two phases of so either one.

    The Captain said the reason Waffen aren’t Sea transportable is because historically they never were and it also represents them having more equipment than regular forces which is part of the reason they have the higher combat factors.

    Also, going back to AGs, if there not in danger of being attacked and you don’t have enough surplus units to form one and continue other offensive operations, it’s probably no big deal they aren’t formed. Probably makes it a little easier than having to reform all the time.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @Panzerstahl-Helm looking at this some more. Is that why you didn’t take Belarus ? You didn’t think AG 1 could move 2 as 2 of there dudes could only move 1 ? Which is correct. But not knowing it could disband is pretty impactful.

    Idk we can do a SSR reset if you want. Just redo a Belarus battle for G. You obviously had the strength. I wouldn’t have been able to kill AG Center otherwise.


  • …this was indeed the reason I didn´t take Belarus. I was thinking about it, but since I am vry short on infantry on the front, I decided not too.

    I am currently going through my J11 and alo take a glance on my G12.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @Panzerstahl-Helm I mean you’re a more than competent player. I doubt you would have left Belarus open if you understood the rule completely. i don’t want you to be bummed after investing this much time over a rule misunderstanding.

    It’s ok by me if you wanna a russian redo

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18

    @Panzerstahl-Helm well I think we should just do a reset for R 11 then. I’m not quite sure how to set it up so it’ll work on the pbem part though. It seems as if it won’t work unless it’s a save from the thread.

    Should be able to just add our emails in and start a new one from there. Let me try and set it up. I can save from History start of R 11 and we can just hand roll your Belarus attack.

    Then I’ll see if we can start a new pbem from there.


  • @barnee

    That´s very kind and fair move from you. I appreciate!
    How about if we just roll out the battle for Belarus and you re-do your Russian turn?
    Taking Belarus will prevent 6 Guard inf + 10 tanks + 1 Tank General + 2 commisars to attack AG Center. (instead of the limited movement due to being part in an AG)

    I would have taken 2 inf + 1 tact. bomber + 1 ME 262 ) both coming in from Eastern Poland.

    BR


  • I mean 3 inf antry. I just saw it is an Elite in Bealrus.


  • nevermind! you switched it in NCM against a regular infantry.
    so back to 2 inf + the fighters.


  • oh boy! …just noticed I looked at your Russian turn. I had to look at my German turn, and while my German turn it was the Elite in Belarus, which I should have attacked.

    so back to 3 inf + figters vs. 1 Elite


  • @Panzerstahl-Helm ok I got it to work. Here is start of R 11

    EXP Game 3 Stahl R 11 Redo.tsvg

    See if it’ll load in pem and then just handroll Belarus :)


  • @Panzerstahl-Helm said in Panzerstahl-Helm vs barnee Game 3:

    oh boy! …just noticed I looked at your Russian turn. I had to look at my German turn, and while my German turn it was the Elite in Belarus, which I should have attacked.

    so back to 3 inf + figters vs. 1 Elite

    hee hee

    I’ll roll it in dicebot now :)

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