kilorynothere L (+12) vs Mainah X BM

[mainah]

@kilroynothere

The Italian’s on the eastern front are resting (read rebuilding the fiat engines every 8k miles per manufacture instructions), drinking ouzo, and enjoying the august summer break in the Balkans. They appreciate your concern, but not to worry - they will resume their duties in September, as is the custom.

I am asking for clarification from the BM guys - I had this done once to me and as it is labelled “any occupation by axis” in the BM notes, i didn’t contest it. But that does not mean that’s correct.

[kilroynothere]

@mainah ahahahaha. Being Italian myself… I respect that! And in that vein: “In typical French fashion, once the Italian truck drove into Vichy territory with 3 guys and a very angry looking dog, the French immediately laid down their arms, scuttled their ships, and went to the Cotes de Rhone region to drink away their sorrows!”

[kilroynothere]

@mainah And, I’m totally fine with moving forward as it is and if we find out we made a mistake, we can change that up in the next game. Just let me know if you find anything out and I can make a move… don’t see any real battles for ANZAC anyway. So can always EDIT if necessary.

[mainah]

@kilroynothere
Sounds good. I found a post stating that an non-french as gun in southern France will prevent the Vichy trigger (as in g1 Germany captures France and Normandy, uk1 transport moves as from Malta to southern France, no Vichy) but nothing directly addressing the axis doing it

[kilroynothere]

@mainah Thanks for taking a look. Considering the standard rules of taking friendly neutrals, I would think that an AA does not qualify, but… I’m not entirely certain it matters all that much for this one. Helps Italy out a bit (and damn aren’t they the powerhouse in this variant!).

[mainah]

@kilroynothere
Yeah - I no It wouldn’t apply to any other one, but Vichy france itself isnt called a friendly neutral in the notes - and you don’t activate the troops or the fleet when you occupy, they disappear.

[mainah]

And the AAA gun is sufficient as a land unit for the us NO in say Morocco but not stopping the Chinese guerilla rule.

[kilroynothere]

@mainah Then let’s say you can take it with an AA (per my sad French tale below) and move along. I’ll finish up my turn shortly so you can go do some German mischief.

[kilroynothere]

@mainah I updated my TripleA to the latest BETA version so that we are matching. Not sure if your email is correct though. Also have you heard if the Play by Forum is now working on the new BETA version? Curious.

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Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 artillery moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 63 Sea Zone to New Zealand
        1 cruiser moved from 61 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 57 Sea Zone to 75 Sea Zone
        3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 destroyer moved from 78 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

[mainah]

forgot the battle for Western ukraine somehow -

[mainah]

assuming there was at least 1 hit out of the 12 inf 5 art 9 mech and 9 tanks i am moving there

the defensive roll is

[dice 1d6<=2]

[dicebot]

1d6<=2: 3; Hits: 0

[mainah]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Poland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Baltic States
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Belarus
        3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
        3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
        1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        4 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 armour moved from Romania to Baltic States
        2 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Bessarabia
            Germans attack with 1 armour and 4 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 4 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
            Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 armour and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Poland
            Germans attack with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Poland, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Poland, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Poland, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Poland, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Poland, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Poland
            Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 3 armour, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
            Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 3 armour, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
        Battle in Belarus
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 4 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
            2 bombers owned by the Germans retreated
            Russians win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Western Ukraine: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Western Ukraine from Russians to Germans
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 aaGuns, 9 armour, 5 artilleries, 12 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
        2 bombers moved from Belarus to Germany
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Gibraltar
        1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France

    Place Units - Germans
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France
        1 bomber placed in Western Germany
        1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Southern France from Italians to Neutral_Axis
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Southern France: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Axis to Southern France: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Axis to 93 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Italians from 30 to 27
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Southern Italy: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Finland: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Karelia: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 0.33
Germans regular : -0.17

Savegame

[mainah]

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Poland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Baltic States
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Belarus
        3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
        3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
        1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        4 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 armour moved from Romania to Baltic States
        2 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Bessarabia
            Germans attack with 1 armour and 4 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 4 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
            Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 armour and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Poland
            Germans attack with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Poland, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Poland, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Poland, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Poland, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Poland, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Poland
            Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 3 armour, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
            Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 3 armour, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
        Battle in Belarus
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 4 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
            2 bombers owned by the Germans retreated
            Russians win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Western Ukraine: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Western Ukraine from Russians to Germans
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 aaGuns, 9 armour, 5 artilleries, 12 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
        2 bombers moved from Belarus to Germany
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
        5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Gibraltar
        1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France

    Place Units - Germans
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France
        1 bomber placed in Western Germany
        1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Southern France from Italians to Neutral_Axis
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Southern France: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Axis to Southern France: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_Axis to 93 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Italians from 30 to 27
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Southern Italy: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Finland: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Karelia: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 0.33
Germans regular : -0.17

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[mainah]

So posting to forum worked even though I got an error message.

I edited the southern france move. It has been ruled illegal, but I am still working on clarification of southern france’s status.

[mainah]

@kilroynothere

[kilroynothere]

@mainah Gotcha. Well, that’s settled. Looks like I need to add another French inf to syria and to French West Africa. I’ll do that before my move.

[mainah]

@kilroynothere
Oh - and equitorial France. And not French - pro axis neutral inf

[mainah]

@kilroynothere
We will play on, but I am still seeking clarification. I think if AAA can’t go in during NCM, then it should change to a CM movement. Notes state occupation, not activation. Notes make it clear that southern France is an exception, and is not considered pro axis neutral.

[kilroynothere]

@mainah I’m cool with whatever. If we want to make our own little house rule, fine by me.