Actual AA pacific 1940 map pictures

[miragehunter]

Squire thanks for the pics of AA40P!  When will we get a sneak peak of AA40E?  These maps are huge.  Boy talk about war gaming on a EPIC scale!  I can’t wait till they come out.

[Imperious Leader]

He got the pictures for AAP40 because he was at Gen Con and kind enough to know how bad we need these.

I don’t think Larry will be at any convention before AAE40 shows up, so most likely we are dependent on WOTC,which has not even bothered to confirm that they even have either of these games even if one of them comes out in Christmas.

WOTC didn’t even mention AA50 until people complained over and over again.

[FieldMarshalGames]

WOW!!  Thank you for making my day!  +1

[oztea]

Convoy zones? I dont see any, and Pacific originated those……clarification?

[Krieghund]

They’re there.  They’re just hard to see in the picture.

[Flashman]

Not sure if the Netherlands roundel is correct.

See here:

http://www.aircraft-insignia.com/page18.htm

You could interpret this either way, but I’d say the inverted orange triangle may be more correct, though in the East Indies they may not have got round to changing it before the Japanese attack!

or here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Netherlands_East_Indies_Army_Air_Force

http://www.scramble.nl/wiki/index.php?title=Dutch_Military_Aircraft_Roundels

Confused?

I am.

[General Di Caro]

Where are the map pictures???

[Imperious Leader]

its correct except its missing the yellow dot.

[Adlertag]

@Krieghund:

They’re there.  They’re just hard to see in the picture.

I can see them, just had to zoom in, dude

[Flashman]

It isn’t missing the yellow dot, it’s just very small.  And it’s (correctly) orange.

However I still think the balance of information suggests that it should be an inverted orange triangle.

Importantly, for the European map the Netherlands symbol should definitely be the triangle, and it would be untidy to have different Dutch insignia on each map.

I’m wondering how the Euro map will handle roundels; will they be 1939 or 1940?  That is, will for example Denmark have a Danish roundel over which you place a German marker, or a German cross already in place?  This is important when considering that many of us will want to use the map for pre-1940 scenarios, so I’d prefer 1939 symbols.

[LuckyDay]

@Emperor_Taiki:

@LuckyDay:

if we go with Larry on this and that map is a draft from before, there’s a whole bunch of money coming to China! wahoo!

Well, given the map, larry misspoke. The chinese terriotries controlled by the chinese at the begining of the game are only worth one IPC each. 16 IPCs though is till alot more than in the past.

given a jpg printed map or Larry’s words, i think it’s time to ask Krieg if he can elaborate on the facts.  i’d be leaning towards Larry rather than a spec map, but who knows…?  Krieg, that’s who!

[Emperor_Taiki]

@LuckyDay:

but who knows…?  Krieg, that’s who!

yep, where is he?

[Krieghund]

I’m very busy working on Europe 1940.  The map that Larry showed at GenCon was the final map for Pacific 1940.  What you see is what you get.

[LuckyDay]

You the man Krieg!  Thanks for the info!!

[Upside-down_Turtle]

@Flashman:

Not sure if the Netherlands roundel is correct.

See here:

http://www.aircraft-insignia.com/page18.htm

You could interpret this either way, but I’d say the inverted orange triangle may be more correct, though in the East Indies they may not have got round to changing it before the Japanese attack!

or here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Netherlands_East_Indies_Army_Air_Force

http://www.scramble.nl/wiki/index.php?title=Dutch_Military_Aircraft_Roundels

Confused?

I am.

Wikipedia is not always accurate.  I admire the attempt with the citations and sources and all that schollarly stuff, but there are bound to be things on wiki that cantradict itself along with reality.

Btw, the New Zealand roundel…dude, is that a Kiwi Bird?!  :lol: Man, I know you learn something new every day, but that’s just awesome!!!  My new favorate military organization is now the New Zealand Airforce!  :-D

[Upside-down_Turtle]

@Veqryn:

AND while there is still the opportunity for 3 factories, the factories in Malaya and Indo-China are seperated by 2 territories before they get to India (however, if japan gets to india, they could put down one of those 10 producing factories… so this might all be for nothing).  .

Actually, I think this better for UK.  UK is based out of India in Pacific, and has enough turns to actually build a factory (if they don’t start with one) and crank out tons of units.

[Veqryn]

Can Hawaii be worth 2 ipcs so that we can put a minor factory there pretty pretty please

[Meethos]

@Veqryn:

Can Hawaii be worth 2 ipcs so that we can put a minor factory there pretty pretty please

Sorry, you can’t build IC’s on islands, with the exception of Japan and the UK.

[gnasape]

@Meethos:

@Veqryn:

Can Hawaii be worth 2 ipcs so that we can put a minor factory there pretty pretty please

Sorry, you can’t build IC’s on islands, with the exception of Japan and the UK.

Meethos,

+1 karma, great catch!

I guess unless there’s an exception HI ain’t getting an IC.  Which makes sense, the only thing we would have at that time would have been sugarcane and pineapples.  All the raw material would have had to be shipped over anyway.

But we had infantry (so did everyone else!)

GO FOR BROKE!

[Veqryn]

so how long do you think the Burma Road will stay open?

I am assuming Japan goes first in this edition

judging from the map, Kwangsi can attack Yunnan first turn, which means the Burma Road will not be open at all

There could be an attack on the second turn, if the first turn Kiangsi can move into Hunan first turn, and Siam into FrenchIndoChina (plus any transports that can drop off in IndoChina first turn), and then combine these with Kwangsi.  If this attack is enough, then that means China will have only their first turn to buy artillery.

Then there is the definite third turn attack, which would consist of everything from Kwangsi, Kiangsi, and Siam, along with up to anything Kiangsu, Shantung, Jchoi, and anything dropped off from Japan island into Kiangsi on first turn, and anything dropped off into IndoChina on second turn.  This means China will have only their first and second turn to buy artillery units.

I am curious if the Brits will have enough resources to defend Yunnan and Burma (they will be allowed to enter China right?)