What if instead of creating tank (or panzer) formations, Germany concentrated on building more trucks (and some half-tracks although not enough can probably built for the whole army) to fully motorise their army? How would their performance during the war have changed?
German T-34s
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German T-34 construction could have been:
T-34/76 Medium Tank
T-34/88 Heavy Tank
T-34 8.8 AT-Gun carrier
T-34 7,5cm Self Propelled Art.
T-34 10.5cm Self Propelled Art.
T-34 4x2cm AA Gun Carrier
T-34 Ammo Carrier (Moose)
T-34 Do Werfer Carrier (Sreaming Mimi)
T-34 Command Tank w. 2cm Gun
T-34 Radio TankThe Germans would have get the best potencial out for their needs, even this simple and Basic Tank instrument got allready what it needs to become the world best known Tank in History!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T35Cs1l1BE
And Yes, at 1:30 min. it`s a Stuart. :-P
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Under the Versailles Treaty, Germany was not allowed to build tanks. After the Nazis broke free of that treaty in 1933, Germany began engaging in tank design. By 1939, it had a somewhat decent light tank design in deployment. By 1940, it had added a moderate number of medium tanks to its unit mix. (Its quest for a good tank design was aided by the acquisition of Czechoslovakia in 1938.) But in 1941, it became clear that none of Germany’s tanks were the equal of the T-34.
In response, Germany hastily designed new, heavier tanks; such as the Panther and Tiger. Like many other German tank designs, these were overly complicated and difficult to build. Assuming the ability to reverse engineer the T-34 in the first place, Germany should have used that as its stopgap tank design until it could put better tank designs into production.
These better tank designs were already in the works.
The Entwicklung series, more commonly known as the E-series, was a late-World War II attempt by Germany to produce a standardised series of tank designs. There were to be standard designs in six different weight classes, from which several specialised variants were to be developed. This was necessitated by the extremely complex tank designs that had resulted in poor production rates and mechanical unreliability.
The E-series designs were simpler, cheaper to produce and more efficient than their predecessors. . . .
The E-50 Standardpanzer was intended as a standard medium tank, replacing the Panther and Tiger I and the conversions based on these tanks. . . . Compared to these earlier designs however, the amount of drilling and machining involved in producing these standardpanzers was reduced drastically, which would have made them quicker, easier and cheaper to produce, as would the proposed conical spring system, replacing their predecessors’ complex and costly dual torsion bar system. . . .
The E-75 was the intended replacement for the Tiger II. E-75s would have had 185 mm armor in the thickest places; and 85 mm armor where it was thinnest. This compares to 100 mm armor on the front of a T-55; and 60 mm armor in the rear. The E-75 would have used infrared lighting and sights; and a high velocity 105 mm gun.
However, the war ended before Germany’s E-Series tanks were put into production.
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Welcome back Kurt Godel7.
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I read a couple years back they pulled a German T-34 out of a swamp it’s one of the very very few surviving German T-34. I do believe Germany would have been much better off making a T-34/88 than making the Panther and Tiger
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I read a couple years back they pulled a German T-34 out of a swamp it’s one of the very very few surviving German T-34. I do believe Germany would have been much better off making a T-34/88 than making the Panther and Tiger
How did they figure it was a German T-34??
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@aequitas:
I read a couple years back they pulled a German T-34 out of a swamp it’s one of the very very few surviving German T-34. I do believe Germany would have been much better off making a T-34/88 than making the Panther and Tiger
How did they figure it was a German T-34??
By now all the emblems will be propably removed…I found the article with pics if anyone is interested.
http://www.rense.com/general75/germ2.htmit seems the markings survived you can easily see them in the pics
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Tight!! thanks for sharing Yavid.
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did you hear about the P-38 they found in Greenland? it was buried in all the ice.
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Yes thank you Yavid
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I think there are two possible problems with this strategy:
Firstly, whilst it would have been indeed much easier to produce, could Germany have produced enough of them to match Soviet production with Western Allied bombing and fighting in North Africa and later in France and Italy? At least Germany would have a qualitative advantage due to crew training.
Secondly, could Germany hypothetically had enough manpower to equip those tanks? I admit this is a lesser problem, as I would favour having one tank than 3-6 infantrymen.