@wizmark hey how are things going?
L21 #2 StickyBomb (X) vs trulpen (A+46) OOB
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 5
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov Combat - Italians Battle in Tambov Italians attack with 2 armour Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 armour in Tambov, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Tambov Italians win, taking Tambov from Russians with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Italians attack with 3 artilleries, 3 fighters and 8 infantry British defend with 1 aaGun, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 1 infantry; Americans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry British roll AA dice in Normandy Bordeaux : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 3 artilleries, 3 fighters and 8 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/14 hits, 4.33 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.33 British AA : -0.50 Russians regular : 0.67 -
@trulpen Casualties?
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@stickybomb said in L21 #2 StickyBomb (X) vs trulpen (A+46) OOB:
@trulpen Casualties?
The british inf and aa and then one american inf.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 5
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov Combat - Italians Battle in Tambov Italians attack with 2 armour Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 armour in Tambov, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Tambov Italians win, taking Tambov from Russians with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Italians attack with 3 artilleries, 3 fighters and 8 infantry British defend with 1 aaGun, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 1 infantry; Americans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry British roll AA dice in Normandy Bordeaux : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 3 artilleries, 3 fighters and 8 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/14 hits, 4.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 4 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 5.83 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the Americans, 1 infantry owned by the British and 6 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Normandy Bordeaux Italians roll dice for 3 artilleries, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 5/8 hits, 3.17 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.17 Italians regular : 1.50 British AA : -0.50 Russians regular : 0.67 -
@trulpen next round?
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@stickybomb said in L21 #2 StickyBomb (X) vs trulpen (A+46) OOB:
@trulpen next round?
Max d, so keep figs.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov Combat - Italians Battle in Tambov Italians attack with 2 armour Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 armour in Tambov, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Tambov Italians win, taking Tambov from Russians with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Italians attack with 3 artilleries, 3 fighters and 8 infantry British defend with 1 aaGun, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 1 infantry; Americans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry British roll AA dice in Normandy Bordeaux : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 3 artilleries, 3 fighters and 8 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/14 hits, 4.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 4 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 5.83 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the Americans, 1 infantry owned by the British and 6 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Normandy Bordeaux Italians roll dice for 3 artilleries, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 5/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 4/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the British, 2 infantry owned by the Americans, 1 artillery owned by the Americans, 2 artilleries owned by the Italians, 1 fighter owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Normandy Bordeaux 3 fighters owned by the Italians retreated 1 artillery owned by the Italians retreated to France Americans win with 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11 Casualties for Italians: 2 artilleries and 8 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Casualties for British: 1 aaGun, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France 3 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 4 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany Place Units - Italians 2 infantry placed in Southern France Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 11 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,6,1,1,6,2,3 Italians collect 4 PUs (11 lost to blockades); end with 5 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -1.00 Italians regular : 1.50 British AA : -0.50 Russians regular : 0.67 -
TripleA Turn Summary: ANZAC round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra Combat - ANZAC Battle in Sumatra Non Combat Move - ANZAC 3 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to Burma Place Units - ANZAC 1 factory_minor placed in Queensland 1 infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra Combat - ANZAC Battle in Sumatra Non Combat Move - ANZAC 3 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to Burma Place Units - ANZAC 1 factory_minor placed in Queensland 1 infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Normandy Bordeaux 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 6
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 6 infantry and 10 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Caucasus Germans take Caucasus from Russians 5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Volgograd 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 2 bombers moved from Bryansk to Russia 2 fighters moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel Germans take Archangel from Russians 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Samara 3 tactical_bombers moved from Bryansk to Samara 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Samara 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk Combat - Germans Air Battle in RussiaCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@stickybomb Intercept Moscow? 4v3 in favor of Germany.
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@stickybomb said in L21 #2 StickyBomb (X) vs trulpen (A+46) OOB:
@stickybomb Intercept Moscow? 4v3 in favor of Germany.
No intercept. It’s a crap shot, but worse for the defender to lose more.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 6 infantry and 10 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Caucasus Germans take Caucasus from Russians 5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Volgograd 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 2 bombers moved from Bryansk to Russia 2 fighters moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Volgograd 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel Germans take Archangel from Russians 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Samara 3 tactical_bombers moved from Bryansk to Samara 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Samara 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk Combat - Germans Air Battle in Russia Germans attacks with 4 units heading to Russia Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in Russia Russians roll AA dice in Russia : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 7,6 and causes: 13 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Russia causes 13 damage total. Battle in Volgograd Germans attack with 6 armour and 12 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 6 armour and 12 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 2/18 hits, 5.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 6 armour and 12 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Samara Germans attack with 4 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 4 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in Samara, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Samara Germans roll dice for 3 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in Samara, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Samara, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Samara Germans roll dice for 3 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in Samara, round 4 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Samara, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Samara Germans win, taking Samara from Russians with 3 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - Germans 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Germany 2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Germany 2 bombers moved from Russia to Germany 2 fighters moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 3 tactical_bombers moved from Samara to Bryansk 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk 1 armour and 9 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 5 infantry moved from Western Germany to France 3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Germany 2 armour moved from Germany to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 8 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5,4,5,3,1,5,6 Germans collect 55 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 55 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 75 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -1.67 Germans regular : -3.83 Russians AA : -0.33 -
@stickybomb said in L21 #2 StickyBomb (X) vs trulpen (A+46) OOB:
@stickybomb Intercept Moscow? 4v3 in favor of Germany.
The SBR-rules are so much better with BM3, having figs @2.
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@trulpen agreed - even then though it’s a minor difference since I brought escorts.
Honestly I am down to try BM3 at this point, just not sure I firmly understand the Vichy rules. Also not sure if I would like bombers being 14. However, marines, Chinese guerrillas, updated NOs and updated Intercept rules all seem great.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Russians Russians repair damage of 12x factory_major; Remaining resources: 23 PUs; Russians buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Samara 1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Samara 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara 2 fighters moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara Combat - Russians Battle in Tambov Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry Italians defend with 1 armour Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Tambov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Tambov Russians win, taking Tambov from Italians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Battle in Samara Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 3 mech_infantrys Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Samara, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 2,17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 mech_infantrys in Samara, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Samara, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 2,17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 mech_infantrys in Samara, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Russians and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Samara Russians win, taking Samara from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Casualties for Germans: 3 mech_infantrys Non Combat Move - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Italian Somaliland from Italians to Russians EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Samara to Russia 2 fighters moved from Tambov to Russia 1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Italian Somaliland 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria 1 submarine moved from 105 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone Place Units - Russians 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 26 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0,50 Germans regular : 1,00 Russians regular : -0,67 -
@trulpen one thing I actually hate in OOB is the Italians getting NOs in the ME/Africa, it just feels so cheesy. The allies need the help but I hate how this does it.
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Not refering specifically to this situation, but executing SBR in OOB is just too easy.
In this specific SBR, I would definitely have intercepted with 3 fig against 2 fig, 2 sb. Germany could bring in one or two tacs as well, which might tip the balance.
The Vichy rules aren’t too complex. If you have any question regarding them, I’d be happy to try to give an answer.
I was sceptical with pricier bombers at first, but after having played with it, I believe it’s a positive change. They’re simply too cheap in OOB with that great range and attack power.
An alternative way is to do as in P2V were they still cost 12, but @3. That’s actually also a good change. Makes the bombers more focused on SBR.
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@stickybomb said in L21 #2 StickyBomb (X) vs trulpen (A+46) OOB:
@trulpen one thing I actually hate in OOB is the Italians getting NOs in the ME/Africa, it just feels so cheesy. The allies need the help but I hate how this does it.
I think you meant the Russians.
Btw, the battle in Samara was pretty sick. 0 % hits in the first round and then like almost 100 % hits in the second. Especially valuable for the defending side.
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@stickybomb Meant the Russians not Italians.
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