Game 1 of 2025
PTV OwenToo vs max334 (Axis)
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I wanted to ask you your opinion about this. I dont like games like ours to be decided do to simple mistakes. I think in the beginning you allowed me to redo my turn to save the German fleet and just recently you gave me back my 2 German bombers that I had forgotten to evacuate. We’ve been playing for a long time now and wouldnt you hate to have all that thought and energy just wasted do to a simple mistake? Just wanted to get your take on this. Thanks
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@max334 Because this is non-league, I tend to agree with you, only because this is a learning game. Kind of like preseason games in the major sports, or even practice scrimmages.
If it were a league game, then I would disagree. In a league game, you must be more careful, make sure you have things the way you want, and not ask for re-dos. Most players want to gain their best ratings, and therefore the league games are for “keeps”. The better players don’t make the same mistakes as lesser players, and there is no way to know an opposing player’s intent on fairness and reciprocity, so the rules of the games should be known and followed, with no cheating.
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@owentoo I guess I like the more relaxed game play. The fun of playing is more important to me than ranking. Even in a league game I forgive my opponents mistakes. Maybe in tournament play the rules should be very strict and mistakes unforgiven.
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@max334 I have not seen any cheating. The MARTI die roll server eliminates possible cheating by sending results immediately to both players. That is comforting, and eliminates suspicion. I probably shouldn’t have used the term “cheating”.
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2 scramble options triplea_36256_12fre (4) 4.4.tsvg
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@max334 scramble 2 American fighters and 1 British fighter in 113.
No carrier scramble into Trans-Jordan
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 7 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 5 armour moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 4 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Vologda 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to Trans-Jordan 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan Combat - Germans British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 113 Sea Zone Battle in 113 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter; Americans defend with 2 fighters Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 submarine owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 113 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 1 submarine Casualties for Americans: 2 fighters Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Battle in Trans-Jordan Germans attack with 5 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 5 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 artillery and 7 infantry Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 5 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 10/20 hits, 10.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 7 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits 7 infantry owned by the Americans, 1 artillery owned by the Americans and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Trans-Jordan Germans win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 5 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Germans: 3 mech_infantrys Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 7 infantry Battle in Vologda Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from Vologda to Leningrad 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad 1 aaGun moved from Finland to Vyborg 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Leningrad 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun moved from Northern Belarus to Eastern Poland 8 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to France 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 13 artilleries, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 2 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine 2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 1 battleship moved from 115 Sea Zone to 121 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 109 Sea Zone to 121 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 115 Sea Zone to 121 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt Place Units - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Germany 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,4,2,5,6,6,4,3,3,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 100 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,1,6,2,5,6,5,5,2,6,1,6,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3 Germans collect 49 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 49 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 52 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -0.33 British regular : -0.67 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 13
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 fighter and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 8 infantry moved from Yenisey to Dzavhan 1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan 1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan 1 artillery moved from Urals to Kazakhstan 3 fighters moved from Russia to Kazakhstan 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Southern Belarus Russians take Southern Belarus from Germans 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Northern Belarus Russians take Northern Belarus from Germans 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Novgorod Russians take Novgorod from Germans 6 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Persia to Trans-Jordan Russians take Iraq from Japanese Combat - RussiansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Scramble out of Egypt into Trans-Jordan?
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@max334 two ftrs and a tac sounds good
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@max334 Ah, but which flavor? Japanese or German?
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@owentoo and while you are at it, please give me OOL, unless you want to wait to see first round hits…
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German pls
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Yes I’ll wait. Most obliged
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Ask German pls
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*all German 😁
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@max334 OK, I rolled 5 hits
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@owentoo I took 2 mech and 3 tanks, is that OK?
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 fighter and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 8 infantry moved from Yenisey to Dzavhan 1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan 1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan 1 artillery moved from Urals to Kazakhstan 3 fighters moved from Russia to Kazakhstan 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Southern Belarus Russians take Southern Belarus from Germans 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Northern Belarus Russians take Northern Belarus from Germans 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Novgorod Russians take Novgorod from Germans 6 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Persia to Trans-Jordan Russians take Iraq from Japanese Combat - Russians Germans scrambles 3 units out of Egypt to defend against the attack in Trans-Jordan Battle in Trans-Jordan Russians attack with 6 armour and 6 mech_infantrys Germans defend with 5 armour, 2 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Russians roll dice for 6 armour and 6 mech_infantrys in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 5.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 2 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 5.33 expected hits 4 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians, 3 armour owned by the Germans and 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Trans-Jordan 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians and 6 armour owned by the Russians retreated to Iraq Germans win with 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Russians: 4 mech_infantrys Casualties for Germans: 3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys Battle in Kazakhstan Russians attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan Russians win, taking Kazakhstan from Japanese with 1 artillery and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Dzavhan Russians attack with 8 infantry Japanese defend with 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry Russians roll dice for 8 infantry in Dzavhan, round 2 : 0/8 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Dzavhan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Dzavhan Russians roll dice for 6 infantry in Dzavhan, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Dzavhan, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Dzavhan 4 infantry owned by the Russians retreated to Yenisey Japanese win with 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12 Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry Moving scrambled unit from Trans-Jordan back to originating territory: Egypt Moving scrambled unit from Trans-Jordan back to originating territory: Egypt Moving scrambled unit from Trans-Jordan back to originating territory: Egypt Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Kursk 1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Kursk 1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Russia 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Kursk 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Kursk 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries and 22 infantry moved from Rostov to Kursk 1 armour moved from Russia to Kursk 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Kursk 1 aaGun moved from Samara to Stalingrad 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Samara to Stalingrad 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Komi to Stalingrad 1 aaGun moved from Yenisey to Evenkiyskiy 1 artillery moved from Komi to Gorky 7 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Iraq 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Russia to Samara 2 infantry moved from Russia to Gorky Place Units - Russians 1 fighter placed in Russia 3 infantry placed in Stalingrad 7 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 39 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 1.33 Germans regular : -1.33 Russians regular : -2.67 -
So, I withdrew after one round. You got 4 hits, and I took 4 mech. If you would rather keep one tank from the battle and lose your TAC bomber instead, you can make the switch during your Japanese turn.
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