PTV OwenToo vs max334 (Axis)

[max334]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 12

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
              Italians take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour moved from Romania to Ukraine
              Italians take Ukraine from Russians

    Combat - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        Trigger Ukraine Has Fallen to Italians Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Ukraine_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed_Italians attached to Italians
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
        1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 10
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,4,5,2,6,3,1,3,4,1
        Italians collect 3 PUs (10 lost to blockades); end with 5 PUs
        Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 10 PUs

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[OwenToo]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 12

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 bomber moved from Queensland to Eastern India

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 aaGun, 5 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
        1 fighter moved from 27 Sea Zone to Wake Island

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

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[max334]

I wanted to ask you your opinion about this. I dont like games like ours to be decided do to simple mistakes. I think in the beginning you allowed me to redo my turn to save the German fleet and just recently you gave me back my 2 German bombers that I had forgotten to evacuate. We’ve been playing for a long time now and wouldnt you hate to have all that thought and energy just wasted do to a simple mistake? Just wanted to get your take on this. Thanks

[OwenToo]

@max334 Because this is non-league, I tend to agree with you, only because this is a learning game. Kind of like preseason games in the major sports, or even practice scrimmages.

If it were a league game, then I would disagree. In a league game, you must be more careful, make sure you have things the way you want, and not ask for re-dos. Most players want to gain their best ratings, and therefore the league games are for “keeps”. The better players don’t make the same mistakes as lesser players, and there is no way to know an opposing player’s intent on fairness and reciprocity, so the rules of the games should be known and followed, with no cheating.

[max334]

@owentoo I guess I like the more relaxed game play. The fun of playing is more important to me than ranking. Even in a league game I forgive my opponents mistakes. Maybe in tournament play the rules should be very strict and mistakes unforgiven.
You also said no cheating. What do you consider cheating and/or what kind of cheating have you seen?

[OwenToo]

@max334 I have not seen any cheating. The MARTI die roll server eliminates possible cheating by sending results immediately to both players. That is comforting, and eliminates suspicion. I probably shouldn’t have used the term “cheating”.

[max334]

2 scramble options triplea_36256_12fre (4) 4.4.tsvg

[OwenToo]

@max334 scramble 2 American fighters and 1 British fighter in 113.

No carrier scramble into Trans-Jordan

[max334]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 13

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 13

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 7 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        5 armour moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda
        1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Vologda
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
        1 bomber, 4 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to Trans-Jordan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

    Combat - Germans
        British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 113 Sea Zone
        Battle in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter; Americans defend with 2 fighters
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 submarine owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 1 submarine
            Casualties for Americans: 2 fighters
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
        Battle in Trans-Jordan
            Germans attack with 5 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 5 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 artillery and 7 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 5 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 10/20 hits, 10.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 7 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                7 infantry owned by the Americans, 1 artillery owned by the Americans and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Trans-Jordan
            Germans win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 5 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Germans: 3 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 7 infantry
        Battle in Vologda
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda
            Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 bomber moved from Vologda to Leningrad
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
        1 aaGun moved from Finland to Vyborg
        1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Leningrad
        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Eastern Poland
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Belarus to Eastern Poland
        8 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to France
        1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 13 artilleries, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
        1 battleship moved from 115 Sea Zone to 121 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 109 Sea Zone to 121 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 115 Sea Zone to 121 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
        1 bomber, 4 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt

    Place Units - Germans
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt
        2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Germany
        1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,4,2,5,6,6,4,3,3,2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 100 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,1,6,2,5,6,5,5,2,6,1,6,2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3
        Germans collect 49 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 49 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 52 PUs
        Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : -0.33
British regular : -0.67

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[OwenToo]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 13

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 13

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 fighter and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        8 infantry moved from Yenisey to Dzavhan
        1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan
        1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan
        1 artillery moved from Urals to Kazakhstan
        3 fighters moved from Russia to Kazakhstan
        1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Southern Belarus
              Russians take Southern Belarus from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Northern Belarus
              Russians take Northern Belarus from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Novgorod
              Russians take Novgorod from Germans
        6 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Persia to Trans-Jordan
              Russians take Iraq from Japanese

    Combat - Russians

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[OwenToo]

Scramble out of Egypt into Trans-Jordan?

[max334]

@max334 two ftrs and a tac sounds good

[OwenToo]

@max334 Ah, but which flavor? Japanese or German?

[OwenToo]

@owentoo and while you are at it, please give me OOL, unless you want to wait to see first round hits…

[max334]

German pls

[max334]

Yes I’ll wait. Most obliged

[max334]

Ask German pls

[max334]

*all German 😁

[OwenToo]

@max334 OK, I rolled 5 hits

[OwenToo]

@owentoo I took 2 mech and 3 tanks, is that OK?