L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V


  • @trulpen

    Scramble 3 fighters and 2 tacs, correct?


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @trulpen

    Scramble 3 fighters and 2 tacs, correct?

    Let me check again. Just a minute.


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @trulpen

    Scramble 3 fighters and 2 tacs, correct?

    Yes, full scramble. Just didn’t look at the battle odds, because you said you assumed. :)


  • @trulpen

    Subs got 1 hit. Tip BB or take hit elsewhere?


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @trulpen

    Subs got 1 hit. Tip BB or take hit elsewhere?

    Certainly.


  • @trulpen

    3 more hits.


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @trulpen

    3 more hits.

    Please post the map.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 8

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 8
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 4 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 95 Sea Zone from Italians
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 99 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
    
        Combat - Americans
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Yugoslavia to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Germans scrambles 2 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Battle in Greece
            Battle in Marshall Islands
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 2 submarines
                Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 3 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.17
    

    Savegame


  • Or I’m looking at it.


  • Actually, it’s better if I can look at the present state.


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 8

            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 2 submarines
                Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 3 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.17
    

    Thanks!


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @trulpen

    3 more hits.

    The fleet looks toast anyway during UK, so dmg 3 ac allowing the air to escape to land.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 8

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 8
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone
            5 submarines moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 83 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 99 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Ukraine to 99 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • @artofwar1947

    Pardon the delay; I had to completely rethink the UK turn.

    Just to be sure: Scramble to defend fleet in SZ 99?


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @artofwar1947

    Pardon the delay; I had to completely rethink the UK turn.

    Just to be sure: Scramble to defend fleet in SZ 99?

    No problem. No scramble.

    Also, would’ve like to land more air in Yugo. More central space.


  • But it’s no problem. The air is ok in Rome as well, so no need to change.


  • @trulpen

    The scrambled planes had to return to their bases. For all other planes AA required the same landing zone. I chose S. Italy, but you are welcome to put them elsewhere.


  • Yes, the client wrongly requires a single space for retreat.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 8

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 8
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 4 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 95 Sea Zone from Italians
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 99 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
    
        Combat - Americans
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Yugoslavia to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Germans scrambles 2 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Battle in Greece
            Battle in Marshall Islands
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 2 submarines
                Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 3 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Germans and 1 carrier owned by the Italians
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 7 fighters, 4 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 7/18 hits, 8.83 expected hits
                    2 submarines owned by the Americans, 2 destroyers owned by the Americans, 1 carrier owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 99 Sea Zone
                1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Americans retreated
                1 cruiser owned by the Americans retreated to 97 Sea Zone
                Germans win, taking Greece from Italians, taking Marshall Islands from Japanese with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 7 fighters, 1 submarine, 4 tactical_bombers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -64
                Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Yugoslavia
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Yugoslavia
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Yugoslavia
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy
                2 fighters owned by the Germans, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the Italians forced to land in Southern Italy
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter could not land in 99 Sea Zone and was removed
            2 carriers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western United States to 27 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 marine moved from South Australia to New South Wales
            1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 fighters placed in Eastern United States
            2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,1,6,3,1
            Americans collect 54 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 97 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 98 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Malta: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
    
        Combat - Chinese
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 8 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Libya from Italians to Americans
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Libya: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 98 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Greece: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Greece from Americans to Italians
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 79 to 80
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone
            5 submarines moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 83 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 99 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Ukraine to 99 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 9 fighters, 7 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 7 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 destroyers and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    2 destroyers owned by the Italians, 1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 submarine owned by the Germans, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 2 submarines owned by the British and 1 carrier owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 5 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/11 hits, 5.67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Germans, 1 transport owned by the Italians, 1 battleship owned by the Italians and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                British win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 9 fighters, 4 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 76
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 3 submarines
                Casualties for Germans: 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Tobruk from Italians to British
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Tobruk: 2 armour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 infantry and 3 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Southern Caucasus
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 submarine moved from 73 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta
            4 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta
            4 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - British
            1 factory_minor placed in Southern Persia
            1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Egypt
            1 bomber placed in United Kingdom
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 93 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 109 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 40 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 5 PUs
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 8 PUs
            Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Tunisia: 2 armour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.17
    Italians regular : 0.67
    Germans regular : -1.00
    British regular : -3.67
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 8

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 8
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 12 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
                  Italians take Western Ukraine from Russians
            1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
    
        Combat - Italians
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Albania
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2,5,6,1,2,1,5
            Italians collect 4 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 16 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame

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